Tesla Talk 2

I did. Asked and answered.

As I said. He's shilling his product. You know this, I know this we all know this.

Why you thought this is 'public advocacy' is beyond me. I'm trying to mull this over. Would you define this for the Vodafone manager down your local store selling their data plans out the front of the store?

Would you define this for the services director doing an RFP in front of public representatives ?

I mean where does promoting your own commercial interests.... And discussing programs for public good start and stop.

Excuse me ghost that's not 'a public advocacy group' which was the point wassie was making and the point I had issue with.

Him advocating for products publically is not the same as 'public advocacy'. I understand youre trying to dick around here with words for the crack as you've form in this space. But you've deliberately phrased that question for purpose.

He's shilling his products publically, is not the same as being a public advocacy group, its an attempt to frame this as some independent positive action grouping on behalf of the public.

Once again youre fully aware of the point . No idea why you do this . Like what's the crack my man ?

Actually you even decided to remove the terms publical advocacy. You've enough of a grasp of the English language to understand the difference.

Can we just agree framing this as a public advocacy group was silly by wassie and move on. It's corporate work for corporate sales in a regional market. The jazzing up of Tesla news into weird mental gymnastics is just oddball.

100 percent words do matter.

Rumors from local advocacy groups in Aus suggest Tesla is waiting for a specific production milestone at its Texas plant (best guesses seem to be 250,000 units/year) before introducing the they consider retooling for a RHD.

If anyone reading this doesn't think framing someone as local advocacy groups doesn't mean some independent folksy people then your being obtuse because it's me who pointed it out.

When pressed wassie then said it was the sales director of Tesla.

So like , come on man. Let's quit the games.

I don't recall saying they or he shouldn't ? Did I ?

Not sure of the point being made here…

Agreed to what nonsense, not once did I say a sales director shouldn't be pushing or advocating his products not once.

What I said is we shouldn't be calling this local advocacy.

So it seems we're in firm agreement .

Thanks !

I didn't want to be drawn further into this. It's become all too frequent that you are posting here with anti Tesla/Musk sentiment at best to stroke your ego and at worst to troll. I love the chat, banter and a bit of poking fun, but your posting style in this forum suggests to me that you are incapable of good faith posting due to your strong dislike of Tesla and Musk. Let's have a look….

You seem intent on misrepresenting what others say. You had a canary about it a few pages back when your post history was used to challenge what you were saying about FSD in Europe.

@wassie first mentioned rumours of "local advocacy groups in Aus" (plural) in post 3074. He furthered this…."going by the rumour mill", so not what I would consider substantially proven/believed. Definitely not a statement of fact.

You then asked about "the local advocacy group (singular) in a manner i'm sure was not intended to come across as cynical.

@wassie replied to your request, saying that the most significant "advocate" is Thom Drew. He added/implied that the TOCA was another local advocacy group, as well as the AEVC and AEVA indirectly by pushing for standards and regs which would allow the CT to be sold in Aus.

The first mention of the public was @Cyrus suggesting you take a day off. He said advocating is the act of publicly supporting. Do you disagree with that meaning?

Your response was to say Thom Drew is not public, he's staff. That's where your error in thinking is shown. Nobody said he was a public advocate, or that he wasn't a company man trying to sell more products. You were putting words into someone else's mouth. One can publicly advocate without being a public advocate. You conflated the two.

You shouldn't complain when challenged (or get attacked as you claimed) when you're the person who started to stir the proverbial and call peoples points irrelevant and mute.

Finally, I do have a good grasp of the English language. It is why I pointed to the fact that it is easy to have AI fart out an answer you want if you phrase the question a certain way. If you don't understand that; I proved that your use of AI was null and void as an attempt to prove the point you were trying to make.

It is you who seems to be playing word games and pretending people have said things they did not say. I never mentioned any public advocacy group. Again, you're putting words into other peoples mouths. I specifically said "publicly advocating", which means he (Drew) was using his platform to advocate for Tesla and did/does this publicly….in other words, his advocating is not confined to the boardroom. You know difference, as do I, as does anyone else with a grasp of the english language.

So, No! We can't just agree with your statement that @wassie was framing this as a public advocacy group, because the evidence does not support your claim. Your statement is false and the mental gymnastics are only coming from one place as far as I can see. Happy to be proven wrong and apologise. I'll leave it there unless and until that proof materialises. Have a good day.