Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Doesn’t a secretary / typist post his social media posts for him? I remember I saw a clip (when he was elected again) where he dictates and a young girl typed as he spoke.

As for Trump himself, I am reminded of a quote from Don Cheadle’s character in the film “The Guard”:

"I can't tell if you're really motherf.ucking smart or really motherf.ucking dumb”

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Another poster said the Democrats should stand up for their “values”. It was replied with “what values”?

I understand the reply. Because to me The Democrats seem like an even more wishy washy version than the Irish Green Party. No real connection with the electorate. But think they are great!

The fact is the Democrats idealistic bubble take on the American people meant they ignored vast swathes of the American voter. They couldn’t get a candidate who the people relate to.

Remember Trump not only won a second term (only one of 21 men in history to do so) he won the popular vote!

If Trump could run for a third term it would be touch and go whether he would be elected. It doesn’t say much for the opposition does it? Do they know the American people at all?

President JD will be next, a good Catholic….”God fearing” man. Good luck America!

Are you saying he is not a moron?

Democrats tried to elect a woman twice 1 an exp political the other less so and DEI (dosent appeal to republican voters) didn't learn first time

There no way america will allow a woman be no 1 in the whitehouse with a high no of misogynistic, uneducated and rasist electorate they need a white Obama after the midterms

I dont believe that the latest u-turn on the ceasefire by Trump is his own idea simply because it negates all he stands for, all that is natural to him. With the sudden exit of two major players from his coterie and promotion of two others, the change may have given some others there courage to make unspoken opinions spoken to Trump and woken HIM up to reality. Whether HE remains in HIS new mood is what matters to us.

It 100% follows his usual behaviour. He is a bully. He shouts and demeans, he demands and makes ultimatums and, due to power imbalance that can usually work.

The media, the GOP, political opponents etc. But when faced with pushback he TACOs.

The man is clearly an idiot. He should have never gone in. According to reports Iran were in negotiations that seemed to be moving in the right direction.

When he went in he thought it would be easy and didn't plan - he has admitted he was surprised they attacked other ME countries and surprised they closed the Straits.

Then he makes unrealistic demands, unconditional surrender, and places ridiculous time lines.

It follows the same pattern as almost everything else he tries, and fails, at.

Not to defend Trump, but before you get to Mao, Lenin Stalin and the rest you might want to compare him to USA presidents.

FDR, Truman, Johnson, George W, Obama, Nixon's actions as leader of the most powerful nation have led to the deaths of millions.

You should then go back and read how people were actually killed by Mao Stalin Hitler.

Trump is a complete crook making billions off his office has made the worst strategic error in Iran by a USA administrator since Bush with Iraq part 2, but he's not Mao.

If you want to kill lots and lots of people you need an idealogue, he's lots of things but he's not that.

Of course he's actions COULD led to huge deaths. Let's keep things to reality, it's not as if Trump doesn't provide us with enough evidence of his corruption and decisions not in the interest of his nation or her allies

If you look at leaders of large militarily powerful nations, I suppose you can pin blame for many thousands of deaths on many of them. But to say that Trump is comparable to FDR, Truman or Obama is plain wrong. The sabotage of USAID and the effects of the present Gulf conflict-of-choice on food prices put Trump potentially in the Premier League of killers.

I got about 50% of the way through thinking this was a quite clever analogy of the Iran adventure, before realising it was a post on the wrong thread.

I'm factorring in the fact, apparently, that Vance did not go to Pakistan [along with the envoy & son-in-law] as Trump wanted but said "no" making any trips by the other two useless. Maybe this was all a ploy to confuse the watchers but that would mean Trump was either capable of machiavellian moves or an eminence gris in the White House is still pulling strings. Your "power imbalance" is quite feasibly the cause. It would mean there are two camps within the Trump camp playing for his favour all of the time.

I don't think it matters. The current guardrails haven't stopped Trump, his racism and fascism, ICE or his needless and pointless wars. Any fit-for-purpose guardrails would be struck down by the conservative activist supreme court.

Trump has caused Iran's problems. Its regime was floundering and his response was to give it the shot in the arm it needed to continue.

How many people though, and how much real support did they have?

The protest became entrenched during the Easter break, when schools were out. It evaporated with a whimper when schools went back.

The Healy Rae's are already complaining about not being included in the government they abandoned.

If the protests were our peak internet mob then we're not doing too bad, especially compared to Brexit and Trump.

All that's happened is a bunch of useful idiots had their moment.

His actions which have or are right now leading to deaths -

His support for Irsael to flatten Gaza and wipe out a large number of its population.

His support for Israel’s current flattening of Lebanon, bombing its capital and destroying peoples homes and their means of earning a basic living. Bombing people in destitution.

The many people in Africa and Asia who depend on fuel for cooking and their businesses. .. from Tuktuks to street vendors to name two of the least able to withstand loss of earnings.

The many people across the world whose food supplies depend on a sea traffic - the food growers and the consumers are now in danger.

The thousands of the poorest of the poor and the sickest of the sick who depended on USAid and the UN for drugs and care - cut off on the scrawl of a Sharpie

No doubt thousands have also died in Iran ( corrected) We all know deep down that if a missile landed on a Dublin community the damage would not and could not be limited to the “target”.

The thousands of sailors trapped in the Gulf - are they bring paid while parked? How are their far away families coping?

There is no way to calculate the damage being done right now but saying previous leaders were even worse is no consolation for most people those affected and those forced to look on helplessly.

Mixed. Maybe he is a moron who is accidentally a marketing genius? Enough to get himself noticed and elected. Other politicians would love to have that skill.

But Trump is a definite narcissist getting noticed and praised. Are far more important to him than doing the “right thing” . He is never wrong etc.

But Trump’s particularly works with the American mindset. Loud, brash, thinks of no1? and attention seeking. In Ireland we would say he has “notions” he wouldn’t have a hope of been elected here like that.

That's not really an argument against PR though. Take the UK in 2014. David Cameron felt the need to move his party to the right after a surprise result in the European elections. The UK uses a FPTP system which is essentially a two-party system. The Labour party has largely survived mainly due to its embrace of liberal economics.