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Are you going to retire at 66

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    tough ould job, tis a bit of a shock when it all stops



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,974 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Once you complete your first roundabout you’ll be fine. Where you can get a bit disorientated is intersections on quiet country roads- you have to think twice about which side of the road to go on to if turning left or right😀

    But you’ll be fine- take it easy and also if you have a passenger they can be invaluable as a second pair of eyes to help you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,951 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yep the "see if you can find a carriage with no junkies" challenge 😀

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    If you like to travel I find it relieves the boredom of retirement. I usually like to go on holidays about once a month, even if only to a five star hotel for 4 or 5 days or so. Some great mid week deals in Europe. You are always planning and looking forward to the next holiday or back from one. Also being retired means you can spend longer in long haul destinations. The years just fly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,974 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “If you like to travel I find it relieves the boredom of retirement.”

    In my experience of people retiring in the last few years, and indeed some who are retired decades, they fall into a few distinct categories. But the key differentiator is not things like using travel to “relieve boredom”- it’s actually the persons mindset.

    A few examples:

    I know someone who feared retirement- he travelled and whatnot- but developed a gambling problem of all things. Totally miserable right now

    I know a couple who have spend their retirement essentially watching television and complaining about all sorts of things- they’re not happy.

    I know someone who retired over 20 years ago and hasn’t let the golf course since- hugely active life and yes does travel too and involved with her wider family, nieces nephews etc

    I know someone who travels, involved in family etc etc- not hugely active but very comfortable with their own company too - they’re happy.

    Others I’ve known unfortunately developed medical issues which destroyed their retirement years unfortunately.

    For me the first two examples above show the importance of mindset - money wasn’t an issue for any of these people- they all had enough to live and indeed enjoy - but their mindset towards retirement was what influenced to what degree they actually enjoyed it.

    Personally I would love it and can’t wait for it to happen - I’m comfortable having quiet days as well as exciting days, travel etc

    I’d probably do a self paced degree or Masters in something just to keep the brain going - but only if I enjoyed it .

    But I’d like to leave work behind- I know some who are continuing to work part time long after retirement - that’s not for me - I’d prefer to embrace retirement and all that it would allow me to do . I’ve worked enough and will be dead long enough



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,817 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Just setup a PRSA and have started thinking seriously about retirement, all things going well I think 55 might do doable. There's a lot of ifs in there though. I don't mind what I do for a living at all but fúck work in general, statistically my life is half over already and I intend to spend as little as possible of the rest of it working. Think I'd fancy getting a private pilots license if I had all that free time and no financial concerns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    They will not means test the basic pension, but the State cannot afford to keep on paying it as the same level (in real terms) as they currently do. This is common knowledge and I have been told this by Tim Duggan. AE is his pet project and he has been pushing for years to get it implemented. AE is the ice cream on top of the state pension! In reality when most people retiring also have AE the state will no longer have to increase the the basic state pension in line with inflation. Various means tested top up allowances will cover those who between State and AE pensions don't have sufficient income to survive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I would dislike holidaying all the time, more so if it involved flying, nor do I get the connection between retirement and boredom; we have loads going on, went on a fancy cruise as a one-off for my retirement, and I would have to say it was fun and interesting, but not the best holiday evey. I was shocked at the number of people who only go on holiday to drink. What a sad way to spend the latter end of your life.

    One of the things I am looking at now is sail rail to the UK. I like the train, I went to Paris by the Eurotunnel from London just to see what it was like and had a ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    That hasn't been my experience, but it might depend on the train.

    They dont have any of those scenic train journeys, which are travelling restaurants in the style of the Orient Express in Ireland.

    So I was thinking of doing my own version, getting the train to Killarney or Galway, staying the night in a nice hotel, bringing food from a high-end deli, a picnic basket, a tablecloth, proper cutlery, and glasses. The only issue is that you can't drink on a train in Ireland, so I would have to ditch the bottle of champagne.

    In the UK, you can consume alcohol on a train, so maybe I could do it on the Belfast to Derry Train suppose to be a very scenic journey as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You could try this one but it's quite expensive.

    The Private Rail Tour Option All Islands | Emerald Pullman https://share.google/yOMlnFygh5R8VbBao



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    That's a mad price so no thanks, I looked it up you cant consume alcohol on the Belfast to Derry train.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Can you not drink on the train ? That's a disgrace . Does that mean your own drink too ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I looked it up, alcohol can not be consumed on trains in Ireland unless in limited circumstances where it is sold on the train, in the UK, alcohol can be consumed on trains, but can be banned after football matches and certain concerts.

    On our Eurotunnel, I got a bottle of champagne from M&S and some nice food, and there was no issue with having on the train; alas, I had to use a polycarbonate champagne glass, but it didn't take much from the experience. It was fantastic to arrive right in the middle of Paris



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Ridiculous nanny state .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,974 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It is in some respects but unfortunately it’s as a result of the few spoiling it for the many.
    There were many stories of stupid drunkenness impacting negatively on other passengers through the years so not surprised it’s not sold anymore - as it is there seem to be plenty of stories of bad behaviour on trains- haven’t been on an intercity train joirney in Ireland in decades but I’m not sure I’d enjoy it these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Yes it's very expensive.

    I think your plan of an alternative experience makes more sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    That's annoying . It's like flying Aer Lingus to America . The Stewards are like cross nuns . A few asses screwing it up for everyone .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    At least in Britain I do not expect the state pension to still exist by the time I reach retirement age. I'll personally be fine with a lifestyle not vastly different from now, but the vast majority of people younger them myself won't be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    I had a young fella working for me some thirty years ago who raised the same point, and having given it some thought myself, I made some significant lifestyle changes (along with the wife-and-children) and "retired" five years later at the ripe old age of 35 and no pension to speak of.

    I subsequently "unretired" into the rhythm that's served me well in the interim, and from that perspective I find it quite sad in a way reading so many of ye planning great things for your retirement when I get to do pretty much all of it all of the time, and while I have the mental and physical health to enjoy it.

    My parents are still going strong (albeit with a hefty daily dose of Big Pharma) and never short of things to do; and neither am I. Last year, I found my "To Do" list from when we bought this house, and I'm only a tenth of the way through it after twenty years, so there's more than enough on that to keep me busy till I fall in a hole and don't get up again.

    In that regard, my spare cash doesn't go towards building a million-euro pension pot that might never fully pay out. Instead, I invest in much shorter-term objectives, like buying the tools and materials necessary to convert my chicken shed into a wheelchair-accessible, zero-energy one-man retirement home; or the field next door (if yerman would ever sign the fekkin papers) along with a new roof on the barn and diesel for the digger to create a flexible event space that I can manage and/or rent out when I no longer feel the need to traipse around the planet.

    "Work" - as in the revenue-generating professional kind - is something I fit around my travels and festivals and DIY projects. Because I only do about 20 weeks of it a year (and organised in such a way as to make a holiday of every weekend while I'm doing it) there's no burn-out, no sense of still "grinding away" and it feels like easy money when I see a month's pay deposited into my bank account.

    At this stage, I can't imagine what being "retired" would mean for me. It sounds like something dead people do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    That's like an episode of a 70s show "The Good Life"

    Fair play. I'd never have the guts to de-conform like that so more power to you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    As for retirement itself. I tinker (or mess about as my wife calls it) with loads of different things. Gardening, electronics, woodworking, beer brewing. I think if I have a blend of things that interest me that don't all need the strength and fitness I have now, I'll have a better chance of enjoying the free time.

    This is another form of "life insurance" that's very much overlooked, and worth bearing in mind even when you're still a sprightly youngster. Having a passion for one thing is all very well, but a change in circumstances can suddenly leave you with a gaping hole in your life. Just as with financial investments, diversification in one's range of personal interests is very important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    It's not really that much of a non-conformist lifestyle! Even though my mother would tell you that I live in the back of beyond, we have kerbside recycling, high-speed broadband, an on-demand local bus service that synchronises with (some of) the intercity trains, fresh electricity delivered daily from the wind turbines two fields across … :D

    But as @Oscar_Madison said above: it's a mindset. My best friend from primary school is (quelle surprise) the same age as me, but you'd think he was ten or fifteen years older. He has no dependents, no particular financial constraints (still living with his Mammy) and his worst fear in life is being told that he has to stop working because he's reached "retirement age". He lives to work; that what he does. His only real interest beyond that is "history" … but it's damn near impossible to get him to visit anywhere historic that's more than half a day's drive from Dublin. And I can't even include him virtually in my rambles down dark historic alleys on the Continent because he's so averse to technology that he doesn't have a smartphone, so no WhatsApp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    This is so true. Even amongst my own friends and work colleagues retirement is just "not having to go to work" or golfing. Not working will grow old quickly and golf if you have a passion for it is great, but a hip or knee injury can scupper that and in the the depths of winter you're not going to improve your handicap staring out the window from the 19th hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,912 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I've been retired (at 60) for nearly 9 years now and I've never regretted it or suffered from boredom. I have lots of interests that don't cost a huge amount, golf being the most expensive.

    I have a big old car but do very little mileage so it doesn't cost me much.

    I wouldn't recommend it for people who live for work and have no other interests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭dublin49


    one factor to bear in mind if you are trying to retire as early as possible,once you reach a point where you are reasonably financially secure your perspective on work can change as its no longer a "must do" rather a choice,secondly you can be much more bullish with your bosses to your own advantage and if you are valued staff member you can leverage changes like part time working,dumping work you don't like ,look for increases in pay etc . Certainly for me the last few years were the most stress free .enjoyable of my working life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    "Fresh electricity delivered daily from the wind turbines two fields across " ;)

    Lovely posts .. Living the dream CR good for you !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Everyone approaches retirement differently.

    I see those who are having a ball in retirement, and it's not always about money, either, and I see the other side as well, the non-accepting of their age or situation.

    I often wonder about those with messy personal lives. What did they think was going to happen as they got older?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭cbreeze


    FRee travel here and in the North with the northern Ireland senior smart pass, apply with form available from Intreo offices

    FRee travel on many private buses such as Aercoach, Wexford bus, Swords express, many ferries to islands

    FRee delivery of groceries for over 65s from Tesco

    Care and Repair scheme will do free work around your home and garden, details on the Age Action website

    FRee money, do surveys. See the thread over on Consumer Issues. I make around 500euro a year.

    Note,work is a four letter word ending in K, which we don't have to **** with any more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    I'm just trying to visualise the looks from the three commuters sitting with you at a 4 seater table as you pass Portarlington on a packed train to Kerry while you swallow your oysters and spread some goose liver paté on your rosemary and thyme crackers! Would you allow them to rest their laptops and iPads on your tablecloth? 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I have a fair idea they would think I was a loon, but so what? There is great freedom in not caring what anyone thinks. I would be bringing my husband with me, as I would need him for the plans I have for the fancy hotel.



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