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Are you going to retire at 66

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    Funnily enough I don't really have those stereotypes of older people, as my aunts and uncles who are well into their 80s are able to use technology very well. It's anecdotal but it's what I hear in the media nearly daily.

    I think using the free travel pass would be me admitting to myself that I'm of an age for the free travel! I don't look or feel sixty something and I have no health issues at all. I just don't want to be old but the alternative is not good 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Very interesting post especially about losing your nerve. Not retired - mid 50's - I have never driven abroad in any great capacity and wanted to go to France in the Car. When I thought that the ferry is full of other people driving their cars - why should I be the one person limiting myself and saying that I cannot do it. So said fck it and booked France in September. I am dreading the drive, but feel if I don't do it now, there may be a time in the future that I cant, so life is for living now. So interesting that your post came up for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,986 ✭✭✭yagan


    Having gone through the drama of taking the keys off of older relatives with dementia car dependency is certainly something we plan on avoiding if possible in old age. As is if we were fully retired nearly everything we'd need is an easy walk away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,001 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I'm in my mid fifties too and find increasingly i feel less confident driving in poor weather or after dark. Planning to live near a supermarket or utilise home delivery when I'm retired and keep driving to a minimum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Alfaguy


    Good for you Kalimah - my sentiments exactly - your as old as you feel is really a thing. But I did take the free travel pass as being a stingy old git - anything free you just gotta get it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Just a small tip for you that can save you money.

    Having free travel doesn't necessarily indicate that you are a pensioner.

    Also if you travel with your husband you can travel free on his card.

    Free travel in Ireland https://share.google/fuAFBkHFmrmP8o2nA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    In Ireland at least, people retiring now or heading for retirement are the first generation to have social freedoms that the former generations didn't have, easier access to third-level education, sexual freedoms, divorce, careers outside the home for women, and the chance to live a more interesting life, the chance to form your own life instead of doing what former generations did.

    That might be one of the reasons they find it more challenging to see themselves as getting older.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    its not free, you paid(pay) for it!

    we should be slowly expanding and increasing travel cards as we need to encourage people out of their cars, even ev's!

    unfortunately this could very well be the turning point whereby this dynamic starts to reverse for younger generations!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Plus a lot of people who have retired in the past decade or two have had much more more than they ever thought they would. Take a Garda retiring for example - even back as far as 2009, seventeen years ago, a Garda pension was worth 1.1 million.

    That was in 2009, it has of course increased since. I know a Garda (family member) who retired 17 years ago who bought an apartment with the tax free lump sum, and the rent from that has supplented the pension, plus the value of the apartment has trebled. If you can retire in your early fifties, a whole new world opens up if you have the health to enjoy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yup, we re screwing the young with asset price inflation, all so that some older generations can have a better retirement and end of life, go us!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    That's been done in this thread thread a million times at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I know a story about a car dealership having to sorted this out, they were reluctant to sell the car to the person in the first place, but they were afraid of being accused of discrimination, the person's son managed to sort it and the dealer took the car back, it caused a lot of stress in the family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Have seen this in a while on a thread ...posters trying to shoe whatever their hobbyhorse is on to a thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    retirement is very complex, it tends to impact many, including the young



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    I seriously question whether retirement as it is currently recognised is even going to exist in 20 or so years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,986 ✭✭✭yagan


    Depends on your expectations.

    You see paid for pieces planted in the media about needing to able to afford cruises, new cars etc every year, and people aren't even affording that whole working.

    It can create a pre retirement fear of missing out, but if you already have hobbies and interests then time is more important fretting about having enough money to fill time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    We'll have to see how auto enrollment works out and what way the state pension changes.

    Either way something will have to be in place when we can't work anymore.

    Either that or take us out to the middle of the bog and leave us to God 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    AE had been introduced as the State will not be able keep on paying the State Pension at same same (in real terms) levels as we have become used to. A bit question is if they will introduce a level of means testing to get the full State pension or other State benefits. There is also an issue with people who never bought their own home and will continue renting on retirement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Yes it's all a bit uncertain at the moment but I've always been an optimist.

    Just hope they sort it before it's my turn to be literally put out to grass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I guess that we should have all joined the guards. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,177 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Fair play.

    Many people would be better investing themselves or just save their pension contribution in their bank account.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,543 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    That would be absolutely terrible advice for the vast majority of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Ah listen : if you can't work a hobbyhorse into a retirement thread, where can you put it ? :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I don't think the state pension will ever be means tested for those paying PRSI, whether it stays at the same rate is another issue. It is no harm to make/encourage people to plan for the future or be a bit sensible with their finances.

    A bit in last weekend Irish times about personal debt, some individuals can't seem to be able to sort themselves out financially without help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    unfortunately poor financial management would be common enough, and we regularly try the approach of shame to try solve it, which tends to make it worse!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Mid fifties so about 10 to go. Wife is a couple of years behind so I might wait so we can both retire together and figure it out. We'll have a modest private pension to supplement the state one but we won't be living like millionaires.

    When I turned fifty I had a minor panic thinking about retirement and funding it. I'd been in a scheme for 20 years at that stage but never added to the AVCs in a meaningful way due to financial constraints. I upped the AVCs at fifty but not sure it'll make a huge difference. I've calmed down about the whole situation now. There's no point stressing about it and we'll be in a better position than a lot who've struggled financially the last couple of decades.

    As for retirement itself. I tinker (or mess about as my wife calls it) with loads of different things. Gardening, electronics, woodworking, beer brewing. I think if I have a blend of things that interest me that don't all need the strength and fitness I have now, I'll have a better chance of enjoying the free time. I've started a fund to finance these hobbies so if something piques my interest I won't have to worry about "wasting" money on trying it out. Trying to increase my fitness now and wondering about things like Pilates or yoga that I can continue as I get older.

    I see my parents and parents in law as they progress through retirement and its been strange seeing their lives get smaller as they grow older. Still happy, still enjoying. But it's smaller. Fewer friends. Less travel. Even their diet has simplified. And it's been harder on the men than the women in some ways as they lived a lot of their lives outside the home and that's all gone now. The women have to deal with a partner who's finding his changed lifestyle difficult and it's difficult supporting someone like that. Its the way of the world. We inevitably decline physically and mentally at some stage so I think its best to give some time to prepare emotionally for that time in our lives and how we're going to live in it and through it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    highly recommend starting Pilates and yoga asap, started experimenting with both in my 30's, ive only kept on the yoga into my 40's, my body and mind thanks me



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Alfaguy


    My experience of most retired people has been gardai - as I was one but now retired too (as I may have mentioned a few times) Most Gardai who retired during my service or about the same time I did - meaning they would have joined mid 1960's onwards led pretty affluent lives and the majority of them had husbands / wives who also had good professional jobs. So the household overall income was good.

    Most lived comfortable lives in suburbia but retirement still came as a shock to their and their families routine. Most retired prior to their partners (a lot of nurses, teachers and bank officials) so suddenly they found themselves alone in their nice big house in suburbia - the kids grown up and moved out or at college with their nice but sensible car parked outside. They just did not know what to do with themselves. Id see them on their seemingly multiple daily walks looking a bit lost and forlorn. Perhaps I am mistaken of course and they were having a great time but it did not seem that way to me. I just am grateful that I never opted for suburban life and live in the countryside with plenty of land to roam around in and that my animals enjoy too.



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