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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I didn’t. Let’s be fair, I said the language (ie the manner in which it was reported as opposed to the reporting of the fact itself) was sickening, clearly in the context of someone just having been killed. He’s no longer a young man, not even a cyclist, but up in lights he’s an e-bike rider. I’ll look forward to the day when reports of RTAs tell me what I might already assume so that I can say “ah, yeah, another young lad in a modified Civic”.

    Definitely leaving it there!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I read it the same way. To my eye the inclusion of the words "e-bike rider" is designed to lead the reader in one direction.

    Now, posters on this forum may not be triggered by the words as we are a cycling community, but to a lot of non-cyclists/Journal readers use of the word E-bike is like gravy on the roast beef of your ingrained background prejudice - which is why it was used.

    IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    cowboy driving skills on the M50/M11 junction off the scale this evening. Hard shoulders are now a driving lane. And undertaking AT the junction (i.e about a km down the joining lane) to continue on the hard shoulder before (presumably) merging at some point is absolutely fine.

    Also kudos to the roads policing this morning who sent (first time I’ve seen one in a few years of this commute) a Garda motorbike out to catch rat runners at Kilmac. Only problem is it’s school holidays so traffic was light and no need to rat run. Presumably the report back will be, no issues with rat running, check back again in a couple of years.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭khamilton


    'and with five active driving disqualifications to his name'

    Yep, lets add a sixth, that's the charm.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Principal from Clontarf's Belgrove Junior Boys’ School discusses the bedlam that is the school drop off:

    Aggression of drivers and inconsiderate parking outside Dublin primary school causing ‘bedlam’, says worried principal | Irish Independent

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    why say electric bike but not diesel truck so?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I presume it is because diesel trucks are the norm for trucks, as in it would be almost unheard of to be anything but a diesel in Ireland. It would be great if when they mentioned e-bikes you could trust it was what they say it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    We will probably see a lot more cyclists on the roads as a result of what's going on. Hopefully it will change people's mindsets about alternative healthier means of getting around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,304 ✭✭✭✭zell12




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    The inclusion of the words "electric bike" is designed to lead the reader in one direction.

    To many non-cyclists/Journal readers the words E-bike or electric bike are like gravy on the roast beef of your ingrained background prejudice - which is why it was used. The media organisation is baiting its readers with words known to be trigger words.

    IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 72 ✭✭Los Cafeteros


    Just anecdote but the amount of cyclists on my Dublin commute has exploded compared to last summer when I last had a similar route- Grand canal, IFSC, Fairview. Presume it's a result of return to office mandates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    I cycle into work since the return to office started. 10.5k each way - handy 30 mins.

    Fairview is 100% much busier then it ever was. Have to seriously watch my speed now with the sheer difference between slow 12-15 kph people who have presumably switched to the bike.

    Add E bikes/scooters to the mix too and there is so many.

    Its great to see.

    Have to thank the farmers for the handy commute this past week - dame steet to O connell bridge and then connelly was easy to get through without any cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,304 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Hopefully many people will experience Dublin city centre this weekend without the incessant car traffic, and see an alternative where pedestrians & cyclists are prioritised 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,536 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I cycle across Limerick City every day, the roads are bumper to bumper completely jammed and thats even without the school run. I see the same 3 guys on our bikes since this started and a couple of people on scooters, no new cyclists whatsoever, depressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Its bewildering how people can just sit stuck in a car in traffic everyday. I wouldn't have the patience but sure each to their own.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I'm out the country, to say the number of e bikes on the road (and a few strimmer engines on a hybrid that I have not seen for years) has increased in the past few weeks has been phenomenal. It won't last but hopefully converts a few.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    People in Galway City have been sold/told for the last 15 years that if we follow Limerick City (1h15 down the M18) with its fancy Riverbed tunnel that the car traffic in the City will evaporate? Galway Ring Road will be getting two tunnels (under a Racecourse and limestone paving ) and a bridge (across the Corrib) so perhaps its simply down to fancy infrastructure numbers.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Future video of traffic management central in Galway once these do get built, you see them walking into Galway Traffic Modelling at 2 minutes 30seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTCZZBrhORs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Decent article but needs to be fleshed out with some conclusions and solutions. "It terrible, terrible altogether Ted" but yet nothing changes.

    Cycling related:

    "The RSA said that 64% of cyclists hospitalised after road crashes were injured in single‑cyclist collisions"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Whadaya mean nothing changes? We're getting more hi-viz, they're clamping down on illegal e-bike and e-scooters and talk of mandatory cycle lanes and helmets reared its head again recently… solutions are clearly afoot.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    This actually fits in with my Utopia clip above in relation to Galway, watch the whole thing and the need for data driven solutions, then the data doesn't agree, let's stick a minister in a Hi Vis with a builders hat at a photo op.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Case from 2015 and we still don't have traffic cameras, can't understand the aversion to technology, not like they're replacing roads policing gardai which are nearly as rare as hen's teeth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭piston


    I'd welcome red light cameras. I've nearly been hit on occasion by people jumping lights when I have a green man.

    No doubt the usual people will say this is unfair and cyclists jump red lights all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I was crossing the leeson street upper junction this morning where the right-most lane swings right to join sussex road (that funny intersection before you get to leeson st bridge northbound). It's not the busiest junction compared to the volume of traffic on the road heading towards the bridge/ canal, but because of its layout and parked cars it can be hard to make out whether there's a car about to fly around the corner. I noted my luck as the pedestrian light was still amber when got there. Just as I was reaching the island on the opposite side I sensed a car passing behind me. Took a glance and saw the lights were still amber for pedestrians. As I was noting all this another two cars drove through. All of them clearly had reds. Proper reds, not the "ah it was just turning from amber as I went through officer" reds.

    All I can do at this stage is roll my eyes. Getting smashed by a car braking from 20kmph is a lot sorer that getting taken out by a bike at the same speed, breaking or not. I can vouch for that. But yeah, you're dead right, the Whatabout Brigade and Esteemed Members of the Judiciary would no doubt be hopping mad at all the red light jumping cyclists.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    And it is the stupidity of that mentality, who f*cking cares if a percieved other group, are percieved as getting away with it. That group, even if they were (which all evidence says they are doing so at a lower rate than motorists), they are not injuring pedestrians or causing traffic jams at an noticeable level.

    Also, if RLJ cameras come in (and I say this all the time because they can be used in this way), they can actually identify junctions where cyclists are routinely doing this, as well as what time, leading to targetted enforcement if it ever actually became a thing that is needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭khamilton


    The only time I've ever seen a cyclist stopped and given a ticket was someone cycling the wrong way up Nassau street (east to west). A year or so later they put in contra-flow cycling.

    I wish councils in general put more effort into looking at pedestrian/cycling desire lines!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    I was nearly hit crossing the Merrion road today with green pedestrian light by a cyclist who didn’t give **** about red light and when I shouted at him called me c**t

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    No one is denying there are c**ts who ride bikes, I've met loads, turns out that being a c*nt does not dictate what form of transport you will use. Just that if is there is to be targeted enforcement by the gardai or cameras, it should first go after those causing the majority of deaths, severe injuries, then decreased life expectancy due to increasing traffic, and then minor injuries, but in all cases, a group that are doing it at a recorded level rather than a level so low, it is not getting picked up in records.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,938 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    True, some great cycle lanes around the place, but so patchy and inconsistent.. there would be uproar if motorists had to go from the M50 to a dirt road, or drive through a field just driving in the city centre… but for cyclists you can go from well surfaced, wide, smooth protected cycle lanes to some paint at the side of the road to none…

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