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Fuel Protest (Read MOD NOTE on first post)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭creedp


    I’ve yet to hear a sitting Govt/Minister ascribing credit for any success to a previous administration. The reverse is pretty common place though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    That is a better criticism than the finger-pointing at individuals for blatant political purposes.

    Despite several attempts with changes to the Planning Acts, we don't seem to be getting projects off the ground. However, it does look like quite a number of projects - BusConnects, DART plus, Metrolink, Shannon pipeline, Dublin Drainage Scheme, Galway bypass, Cork Commuter Rail, Luas Finglas - will have passed their planning and commenced construction under the current government. They won't get a bit of thanks for that at the next election as most will not be completed, but whether or not it is the same government back again, you can bet that whoever is cutting the ribbons in 2030 will be claiming all the credit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Correct, and even less so have I seen the electorate give credit back to decisions made ten years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Serious question:

    Now that the cat is out of the bag, will you support all future protests who copy this method of protesting?

    When the students all band together and block the oil depots from being resupplied, you'll be right there with them, yeah? And what about nurses/doctors? You'll be cheering them on as you're stuck in traffic trying to bring your pregnant wife to the hospital, because Dublin has been turned into a carpark, will you?

    Spoiler alert: will you fcuk.

    Because I guarantee you, the people doing the protesting now would be calling for heads on spikes if they couldn't get the fuel they need to do their job. Every single one of the leaders involved in this nonsense would be looking for the Guards to start kicking heads in, if a load of asylum seekers blockaded anything as a form of protest.

    Mé féiners, every single one of them. They don't give a rats about anyone, bar their bank manager.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It was James Reilly (FG) that pushed the St James site.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Aragh stop. You're living in cloud cuckoo land if you think half of those things will get built. The Galway bypass hasn't a hope.

    They were years coming out with a new planning act and it completely ignored judicial reviews. Crazy stuff.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,426 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Amazing how negativity gets sunk in to people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Those who work with their hands? Like…..typists?

    Or do you mean all the builders, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, doctors, labourers, cleaners, forklift drivers, warehouse operatives, scaffolders, mechanics and fitters who were stuck in traffic while the 'people on the brink of bankruptcy' parked their 250k vehicles in Dublin for a week? I'd wager there are more manual labourers in Dublin than the rest of the country combined.

    There is no snobbery towards people who work with their hands. One could easily accuse you (and all rural folk, by association) of having a chip on your shoulder with regards to city-dwellers, but, as is the case with your own ill-informed nonsense, it is worthless when I provide SFA to back it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭gral6


    Water cannons are badly needed in big numbers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭1641


    Any one think of any opposition party who have come out in support of curtailing the scope for both planning objections and judicial reviews in relation to housing development, transport infrastructure, energy generation, national grid development (etc. etc)? And can anyone point to any constituency politician of any party who has not supported at least some such objections in their own constituency?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I dont think we need any such thing. We have any incredibly effective Gardai force, who ( despite not being heavily armed or thuggish like in other eu countries) are able to disperse mobs effectively once they receive the operational directive. All in the face of threats to their families by certain elements of an incredibly peaceful protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    The amount of abuse and hate towards guards is frightening.

    People calling them out for not ringing in sick 🙄 Sweet Jesus the mentality of people

    Can you imagine some of them involved in lets say a domestic abuse situation and calling the guards just to be told no sorry they all rang in sick today 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Remind me of the number of opposition parties who claimed that the planning acts were too loose for objectors and who wanted the route to judicial review closed down?

    The problem we have is that the opposition are worse when it comes to infrastructure. The government are bad, but the main opposition parties are far far worse.

    The protesting nutcases wouldn't make it better either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭midlander12


    At least some on the left seem to be prepared to call out what's going on.

    Ireland’s far-right movement will emerge from the ‘breakfast roll-atariat’ – The Irish Times

    Fuel protests: Blockades were not anticipated, Taoiseach says; gardaí advise extra travel time – The Irish Times

    Owen Reidy, the general secretary of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions, has claimed there is a “hierarchy of rights” in the State, Vivienne Clarke reports.

    “When trade unions take industrial action, we have to ballot for action, we have to serve seven days’ notice. If we don’t do that, we can be injuncted. It seems farmers and small business people can do whatever they want. So we’re not going to tolerate that any more,” he told RTÉ radio’s Morning Ireland. It seems that if you shout the loudest, you succeed. This isn’t just last week. We’ve seen this with the hospitality sector, where they effectively shook the Government down for a reduction in VAT that’s not necessary. It’s not going to protect any jobs. It’s just going to increase the profits of that industry. And last week, we’ve heard of ordinary decent people mounting blockades. Now, I remember when ordinary decent people who are members of Mandate Trade Union protested when Debenhams left them high and dry. I remember pictures of gardaí carrying women away from a protest because they breached Covid rules. There’s a hierarchy of rights in the State.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Nonsense?

    You need to read my post again, I have no idea what you are replying to, certainly not anything I posted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Blindspots abound.

    The amount of AI slop that's been posted in support of the protestors this past week

    Cork Matters (Edited to correct source) posts about the Garda statement on the driver with the slurry tanker, accompanied by an AI image (shoddy journalism 100%)

    They're all losing their minds in the comments about AI and fake news

    sigh.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Mullinabreena


    The Sligo protest surrendered today and stood down. They are starting a email campaign to TDs...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    So TD secretary's will be bombarded with crap emails to delete.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,942 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I have news for you. SDs, SF, Independent Ireland, Aontu have never been in power. Blaming them is just lame. It has been all FF or FG and now they are together along with absolute cowboys like Lowry and the Healy Raes. The judicial reviews problem was well known before the long awaited planning act was passed and yet they ignored it. It was beyond belief. An Bord Pleanala have been a disaster for many years too but but but the opposition.

    I voted FG for 20 years and despised the FF crooks. I eventually copped on. Insanity is....

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭skeleton_boy


    Not defending Cork Beo as it is click bait shite but is this not an imitation Cork Matters?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Sorry sorry you're right it's not Cork Beo, it's another rag

    My fault!

    Jaysus its really too fecking easy to spread fake news lads 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭skeleton_boy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I've been looking back on some of the nonsense from the last week. One of my favourites there was the call for the travelling community to come out in support of the farmers in Dublin. The quote was "farmers have always come out and supported travellers whenever they have been in need so we call on you to support us now".

    There may not be a group in the country that hates travellers more than farmers. Ridiculous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭1641


    By "supporting them" maybe he meant buying stuff from the back of vans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭lucalux


    It went down very well online!

    I've seen a lot of similar sentiments to this response on FB and in whatsapp groups in reply to the call, which was posted repeatedly in comment sections

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,899 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    They hate the travelling burglar gangs and the ones that trespass and put ponies on land.

    Whoever posted that was possibly an old timer harming back to the old times when certain farmers did get along with travellers.

    They didn't mind them camping nearby and gave them milk for the kids and maybe a few bob.

    Some travellers repaired buckets and made new ones which were needed on the farm.

    Old times, history now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭1641




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,426 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Insanity is using every post to pump out negativity without thinking things through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    For someone posting on Facebook he sure lives under a rock so!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Lofidelity


    You jumped to a conclusion. I live in Dublin. No chip on the shoulder, im pointing out the hypocrisy and over the top language. The same people who normally feel it is not socially acceptable to criticise or judge any group in society suddenly threw off the shackles and let rip.

    Posters on here were foaming at the mouth all weekend calling protesters stupid and knuckle draggers. Jim O Callaghan's contribution is that they are all gullible, taking instruction from Conor McGregor and MAGA. Then the Irish Times uses a lazy trope about breakfast rolls.

    I think the blockades went too far, but at the same time i welcome Irish people waking up and not being so passive. We have a weak government and a pathetic opposition. Government expenditure is up 50% in six years but its hard to see any real benefit. They keep coming back for more tax and then squander it.



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