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General Star Trek thread

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    The thing I loved the most about Into The Mirror Darkly was that they managed to take an exact copy of the 60’s TOS appearance of the USS Defiant, and somehow make it feel more advanced than the 2000’s sets of the NX-Class Enterprise.

    Something very satisfying seeing a TOS Conny become the most advanced and heavily-armed thing in space for a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 624 ✭✭✭eadrom


    Nah man, it's basically the same thing. Nobody, I think, is saying that Voyager is the greatest show. They (and I) are saying that it's more enjoyable watching it now than it was when it was released.

    TOS is great when taken in the context of it's time. But watching it now – it's a little slow, a little quaint, a little dated.

    In Voyager's time it was literally buttressed up against the end of TNG and running in parallel with DS9 for half it's run. It sucked in that context.

    Now, it's different. Still not a great show. But the context in which we watch it, streaming on demand and alongside the likes of Disco, SNW, Picard, Academy, means it's much easier to enjoy.

    In my opinion anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Optimism folks. Star Trek is meant to be about optimism. Where humans have moved passed our petty differences and embraced the future together.

    The real world is so fcuked and dark right now, we need shows that have humanity beyond all this. Not shows that give us more of it.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dropping Names was a really great episode this week if you haven't watched - Felicia is really easy to listen to and be entertained (such a talented woman), think she was fangirling a little bit



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    I’ve watched a few of them , it’s been hit and miss for me. The Seth McFarlane one was a slog. I found it very pretentious. I like Felicia say though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Rumour that Star Trek United has been greenlit but waiting for Kurtzman contract to end

    Think it's probably on the back of the Sussman twitter post and they are putting 2 and 2 together (adding their insider) and getting 5, but I'd be interested in seeing it even if I would prefer something moving forward from Picard



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    I feel that ST: United is vaporware akin to the 4th JJ Movie until they actually start shooting it. That said, I might like to see that show. One thing I did like on my rewatches of ENT was the early pre-Federation politics. Might be interesting to see a President Archer trying to keep a newly created Federation together.

    Assuming that Kurtzman isn’t getting a renewal, I guess it makes sense to wait with United until he’s gone. They’re going to need to first work out who will make Trek once Secret Hideout lose their licence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Delighted. Can wait for that. Done right it could be really good.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    You would hope it's a given at this point that Kurtzman is out and his Year One proposal is dead in the water now they are dismantling all the sets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Ok its odd looking so what Enterprise is that?

    1000029319.jpg

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    Dismantling the sets is a pretty clear sign that Secret Hideout will not be making more Trek. Might even indicate that their time at Pinewood Toronto is finished.

    However, as much as I’d like the Kurtzman Era to be over I won’t take it as a given until his contract isn’t renewed and then eventually given to someone else. The Entertainment Industry is full of people who haven’t the foggiest of what they are doing…and it is well within their gifts for them to turn around and give Kurtzman a twentieth second chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    There is so much clickbait rumour and straight up lies about Kurtzman and the future of Trek it's honestly not worth engaging wit any of it.

    Wait for actual news.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,874 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Just for the sake of updating…

    Many, many moons ago, I set myself a challenge of watching absolutely every Trek show in release sequence. I have just finished Enterprise. I was one of those apparently few who liked it back twenty years ago outside of the 'sex up the one female' trend not unique to Enterprise either. Still think it was a pretty good show, though the whole 'temporal cold war' thing was a bit naff and I could have done without it.

    Apparently the next one is Discovery. I've seen a few episodes a few years ago, but decided I was better off going back to my challenge (TAS was next at the time).



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    I couldn’t really stand Enterprise early in its run, but on rewatches I feel that I hadn’t give the show enough of a chance. Especially after watching Season 3, which turned out to be pretty damned good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    I'm currently a few episodes into season 3 of Discovery, having enjoyed season 2 (viewing of which was prompted by really liking SNW S1 & 2).

    I really don't mind the premise and the time-jump (safe to say there's long been no spoilers there) but the writing suddenly seems so clunky…

    I'll probably give it this season and then bail if it doesn't improve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Discovery spent way too much time trying to respond to criticism by correcting itself and season 3 for this reason seemed to have a lot of terribly written monologues and "clunky" dialogue that was trying too hard to be the inspirational Kirk/Picard style of Trek.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,511 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    a lot of terribly written monologues and "clunky" dialogue that was trying too hard to be the inspirational Kirk/Picard style of Trek.

    Lol, yes. Ironically, it was after yet another earnest, breathy yet just plain clunky monologue by Michael Burnham that I decided "enough!", and bailed!

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    I had a good bit of hope for Discovery at the start of Season 3. It felt they were going for a Voyager-ish quest of trying to find the New Federation in this new post-apocolyptic Alpha Quadrant…but then…it just went bleh. The characterisation went to hell, the writers fell right back into their old habits of just using Burnham as a funnel for all of the major plot points and then they just screwed over Saru who had the potential of being a fantastic Trek Captain. They even made the Orions seem like a hackneyed villain and I love the Orions. Finishing Season 3 was such a chore by the end of it that I haven't bothered with the show since. Can't watch the newer ones, and I can't even rewatch it because of the bad taste I still have.

    Just very very disappointing. As I told people at the time, I was never "hate-watching" Discovery, I was "hope-watching"…and alas I ran out of hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I watched Discovery up to season 4 and then gave up. I only watched episode one of season 4 and gave up after Micheal was the almighty superhero yet again who saves the Universe. I did dip back in for season 5 which seemed better and had some cool things in it. I just wanted to see how it ended which was in no way earned. Any other Star Trek Series it could have been brilliant but not for Discovery. It did not eatn that ending so there is no emotion or feeling when you watch it. I was just like good that rubbish is over and about time too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,376 ✭✭✭✭Stark




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,783 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I would watch the arse off of that if its any way decent.

    I just hope its not filmed in the dark with mumbly dialogue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Was not expecting that.

    Spoiler: it's a Holodeck episode from Star Trek Legacy 2029.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Different kind of Traveller!

    There's another Trek connection in the cast, Cillian O'Sullivan aka Dr Roger Korby in SNW is listed also.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Will he be doing the same fake sounding Irish accent 😁

    What it needs is a cameo from Rosalyn Landor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    His accent ... sounds overdone but heard him interviewed and he spoke exactly the same.

    Mulgrew's character will stay in Fair Haven B&B maybe.

    Up the long ladder with ye now.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,783 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I know a few people who sound exactly like him. I'm usually quite good at placing accents, sometimes down to an actual post code. I can't place his though. According to wikipedia, he grew up in Cork, but I'm assuming at some point he went to speech and drama lessons(you'd have to if you grew up in Cork and want to act, boy!), and so picked up the accent of his teacher.

    Funnily enough I also have a friend who teaches English to spanish students over the Summer, but unfortunately he has a stutter. So, as he says himself, every year about 30 Spanish students go home to Spain who stutter when they speak English.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Just doing a rewatch of All Good Things…

    More class and acting chops in 5 mins than the whole of an episode of Academy and with minimal CGI or multi million dollar sets, like Frake's said they didn't have the budget for all that fancy stuff then so had to have decent stories (not realising what he had just said about Academy)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,783 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Something I only learned last night, the week after filming for All Good Things wrapped, filming for Star Trek Generations started.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Which is why they didn't have time to fix those horrible uniforms and had to start wearing DS9 gear.

    It's sad that you can't just watch All Good Things and enjoy it. You can only watch it while thinking about shtting on something else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    Yeah, Patrick Stewart in particular said he would really have preferred a proper break before going from 7 years of a demanding weekly tv show to a demanding movie. Fair enough really .

    Of course at this stage the producers had to make TNG, make DS9 and be in pre-production for Generations all at the same time. Absolutely bonkers when you think about it



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