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Trump and the coming Iran nightmare war

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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,403 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/elon-musk-boosted-false-usaid-conspiracy-theories-global-aid-rcna190646

    you just keep drinking the Kool aid dont you.

    which is more likely…

    USAID programs shut down in 3rd world countries because they were covert intelligence gathering initiatives…

    or because Trump and Musk are fascist right wing actors who view helping the less well off as a left-wing principle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Two things can be true at once agreed, and honest truth is usually found in that messy gray area in between.

    You don't have to drink the Kool Aid to see that both sides usually have at least a sliver of truth in their take on what’s happening. The problem is always the framing. If a media outlet has a natural bone to pick with Trump or even something like DOGE [ same for the other side] they’re going to wrap the information in a layer of dislike before they publish.You see it on the flip side, too Fox News is going to polish a Republican argument until it shines, even if the reality is a not true.

    At the end of the day, just because an article on a site like NBC was written by two professional looking journalists doesn't mean it’s the absolute gospel truth. It’s just their perspective, filtered through their own network biases and whatever narrative the network is pushing that week to its audience [ its a control system] We’ve got to stop taking everything at face value just because it’s coming from a trusted logo.

    On another topic.

    The situation with the war in Iran is a perfect example of how much news spin each side fed. The level of censorship is insane everywhere. We’re at a point even today where nobody truly knows what the actual U.S. casualty figures are because the Pentagon information is so tightly controlled.

    On one hand, you’ve got Trump dropping truth social tweets claiming that Iran’s air defenses are down and their military is effectively defeated 100 percent. But then you look at the reality on the ground [Iran is still launching dozens of cruise missiles into the Gulf nations every single day and firing long range missile ballistics at Israel everyday. What the administration is telling the American people and western world just doesn't square with what’s actually happening does it?

    I remember saying this years ago on Current Affair threads that Iran’s military was far more formidable than people realized. Back then, the armchair critics laughed it off and claimed they couldn't fight back against them, but Iran was actually very clever from the jump here. They went straight for the eyes and began targeting the command, control, and radar systems of the U.S. Army, Israel, and the Gulf states.

    Sure, Iran is in a tough spot if the Gulf nations and other nations keep letting the U.S. operate out of their territory to fire standoff weapons from hundreds of miles away. But look at what happened yesterday, Iran is essentially let their worthless surface level anti-air sites get knocked out or introduced decoys to the surface to be hit.. It seems pretty clear they emptied those concrete bases after the first 12 day war and moved everything into those deep underground facilities.

    Either the Pentagon bought into their own hype and got blindsided, or they made the call to send warplanes deeper into Iran only to realize the hidden anti air stuff was very much alive. It’s looking more and more like Iran just kept their best tech switched off and tucked away underground, waiting for the exact moment the US got comfortable enough to fly right in for closer bombing.

    It’s looking more and more like Trump is will pull the trigger on ground troops.

    Neither side seems even remotely interested in a actual compromise right now. Said this taking out Iran’s Supreme Leader (Khamenei) basically torched any chance of an early off ramp, you don't kill a figure like that and expect the other side to come to the table for a surrender deal. It just makes the Iranians double down, and Trump’s rhetoric only adds fuel to that fire everyday for them to keep going hard.

    The real danger and let’s be real here is that we’re drifting toward a scenario where someone tries a nuclear strike to end it. My take my opnion. I don't buy that Iran’s nuclear grade weapon material is just sitting under some American bomb wreckage. I think they moved it a year ago or even earlier to a completely different facility. They’ve probably already built the components for the tactical nukes and are just waiting to slot the final parts in. Ambiguity is their entire policy now.

    If a ground war actually kicks off right now The U.S. doesn't have nearly enough boots on the ground to actually occupy Iranian cities . We’d probably just see hit and run raids instead inside iran that trump wants to claim victory about.

    At this point today, it feels like Trump is backed into a corner where he either has to go all in with ground troops over time or pack up and go home. But going home isn't really an option for him either unless its acceptable loss because it would basically end American hegemony in the Middle East . If he leaves now without finishing the job, that influence america had worldwide is gone forever. Plus isreal find that pull out very unacceptable. The economic fallout be enormous too.

    Options.

    Dropping airborne troops into Tehran to seize key sites? Fighting through a massive, dense city facing both a regular military and a hostile civilian population? Possible but very dangerous scenario..

    If the goal is just the oil, he might try to capture the refineries and the coast, but even then, Iran isn't going to stop until the US military is completely out of the Gulf.

    More options.

    I’ve already shared what I think this all means for the control system later, but this is just my personal take on the Iran war as it stands right now in the news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,362 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Why can't any of the alien races just give Iran nukes?

    Why are they so bound by arbitrary TV plot-like rules?

    Interstellar travel is a billion times harder than sourcing a few nukes..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Why exactly would NHI give Iran nukes? What’s the end game there?

    This is what i know dohnjoe.

    Two dominant nhi players here just call the controlling nhi the [Alliance] that’s basically running the death control grid through human puppets operations, and the Free Will nhi group that’s more watching us from afar and cares about our actual development [ who wants humans to wake up and understand that this planet an alliance nhi prison]

    Then you have other NHI who honestly probably couldn't care less. To them, this planet is just one of a billion interests, and they’re content to sit on the sidelines and watch the drama play out like a spectator sport.

    The Alliance wouldn't want a nuclear wasteland because you can't harvest souls from a dead rock. It breaks the machine they spent millennia building [maybe longer time even] And the Free Will group isn't going to hand us nukes [ better weapons] because that contradicts the whole point of us evolving on our own and making a free will decision to be free from the prison.

    Basically, we’re just caught in the middle of a tug of ancient nhi war where neither side wants the planet to have a nuclear war, just for different reasons.

    Conflicts we do have on the surface of the planet are human in origin but manipulated [in time] to stay within a specific threshold of danger [ if that makes sense] Alliance wants enough death and destruction to keep us in a state of fear to be managed and controlled, but not so much danger that it causes problems to the trap.

    The Free Will group had to wait for this specific moment in our history to make their move against the prison [ the plan i discussed]. Before the internet, information was totally bottled up. During WWII or any time before it, the Alliance had a complete monopoly on the narrative, if they told you your leaders were heroes, you had no way to prove otherwise to rest of the world [ that makes sense?]

    Now, because of the web availability to all they alliance cant fully control the flow of information like they used to. We’re finally seeing that our leaders aren't who they claim to be. Everything now pulled back and exposed because we finally have the tools to see the control system manipulation in real time.

    That’s why everything now feels so off right now and rushed. In the past, the powers that be could bury their scandals and messes, and the public would be none the wiser. Now, we’re seeing all the garbage our leaders do in real time, and it’s creating this massive collective cognitive dissonance to people wellbeing. People can feel something wrong about the world!!

    It's not necessarily that the world is getting worse it's that we're finally seeing how bad it's actually been all along but more up front and personal for everyone because of social media forums

    The US, Iran, and Israel are all key players in this alliance control system.They are kept in line by deep seated religious divisions that act as the ultimate distraction.

    As long as these nations are locked in a cycle of holy war and ancient grievances, happy days for the alliance. Explained the plan of free will nhi. Now happening!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭sbs2010


    Hi,

    I've just wandered in here for the first time. Interesting stuff but can I ask about this bit in particular-

    "Basically, we’re just caught in the middle of a tug of ancient nhi war where neither side wants the planet to have a nuclear war, just for different reasons."

    Where's the evidence for this?

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,362 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You predicted that "something big" would be a sign of aliens by some time last year, okay but nothing came up, so it seems you've picked Trump attacking Iran as the key sign.

    How does it reveal the existence of aliens to anyone else but you?

    If someone wasn't reading this specific one thread on this one site on the internet, how would they know?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I know this is the CT forum but is the poster chatting about aliens actually a real person who believes all that stuff they are saying? Do they have a normal life where they go to work everyday but don't mention any of this alien stuff for fear of being put in a psychiatric hospital? Or are they someone with an overactive imagination who would actually be good at script writing. Fascinating and bizzare stuff

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Obviously hardest part of this to prove right now is obviously the stuff we haven't seen first hand yet. But if you look at the congressional hearings, you have guys like Grusch and others coming forward under oath to tell the Senate that there secret off books human civilization sitting on actual craft and biologics

    The real secret is that we’ve been finding these things or even shooting them down for a very long time [ why would we fire on them] i explained why

    People all over the world see UFOs constantly and always ask the same question: If they’re really here, why don’t they just show themselves? Well, there specific reasons why they stay hidden and explained it numerous times.

    I totally get the skepticism. For most people, this isn't part of their real world experience yet, so it feels like sci-fi. All I can say is, that’s going to change.

    If you actually dig into the research and look at the sheer volume of nhi reports, you start seeing the same patterns everywhere. It’s not just random lights; we’re talking about abductions, sightings clustered around nuclear sites, and objects appearing over the ocean or tailing military carrier groups.

    You’ve got the heavy hitters like Roswell or the Bentwaters/Rendlesham Forest incident in 1980 cases with trained military witnesses and physical evidence left behind. The phenomenon is clearly here, and it has been for a long time. The real mystery isn't if they exist, but why they’re so interested in our military and nuclear tech. Explained motives behind that.

    Look, I get why people are calling me out. Dohnjoe brought up a point that I said NHI would show up last year and nothing happened, but that’s just not true.

    I actually predicted they’d show up around September or October of 25, months before that date even hit. And what happened? Europe went through a massive wave of unexplained activity across multiple countries, from Denmark all the way down to Belgium. It lasted for weeks. We’re talking about entire airports being shut down because of these things.

    Dohnjoe wants to write it all off as Russian drones, but the facts don't back that up. They used high-end anti-drone tech against them and couldn't bring a single one down. If they were just standard quadcopters, they would've been falling out of the sky. The tech we saw was on a completely different level.

    The only thing I really missed the mark on was the timing of the start of the control system collapse, it’s becoming way more noticeable now in early 26, whereas I thought it would be more obvious towards the end of 25. But as for the events themselves? I was spot on, despite all the skepticism in here.

    I told everyone these events would kick off had posts in late 2024 and early 25, crisis events would start around summer months in June. I was 100 percent right about the first Iran-Israel conflict start date. I predicted the NHI activity, and I was right about that, too, if people want to believe those were just "Russian drones there,that’s on them.

    The collapse is clearly unfolding now in early 2026, but back in 24 when I was predicting this stuff would happen, people called me mad and crazy. None of this was even in the headlines back then.

    Dohnjoe is asking how anyone is supposed to know I'm right, but you just have to look around. Aren't we seeing the exact stuff I predicted happening right now?

    Look at the fuel costs skyrocketing, the transport industry grinding to a halt, and more people than ever starting to question the wars they're seeing on the news. These aren't just random these are the specific things I said would become impossible to ignore as the control system starts to collapse. It's all playing out exactly how I described it.

    Basically, the way people will know for sure [skeptical now] is when these events start spreading further into western Europe and Asia. Those are the real markers that the collapse is moving into its final stages.

    I told everyone here last year exactly what was coming down the pipeline in future events. We're seeing the start of the geopolitical and economic pieces fall now, but the NHI presence the stuff that will be truly undeniable to the rest of humanity that comes right after this failure. By the time that happens, nobody will be skeptical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,697 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    There is a religious group based on works of science fiction writer Ron Hubbard. They are all into this sort of stuff.

    Re nukes, there is no need for a nuclear explosion. A dirty bomb using the materials Iran already has would cause just as much sociological/monetary damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,697 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Yes it's just scientology. To the letter.

    Predicting vague "global events" and then when something happens 18 months later saying "I told you so" is funny though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,286 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    In fairness, they predicted an American attack on Iran by a president who swore he would avoid such entanglements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    People like you want to call my posts vague, but I laid out the exact map for how this was going to play out. I wasn't just guessing that things would get messy. I specifically called out how these crises would gut the global markets and fundamentally wreck the way society functions in the west and around the world.

    I also outlined that Western alliances would fracture here during the crisis events and start turning on each other way before it happened.

    Look, people can ignore me, but the whole system is fracturing right in front of us. The old ways are gone, period. This isn't some vague theory. I also gave you the outline for these war events ahead of time.

    I told you the conflict between Israel and Iran was coming ahead of time. I said war between Europe and Russia was going to happen too. And I’m telling you now, China and Taiwan is also next. None of this is vague nal. I’m naming the players and the exact war flashpoints before they even hit the news.

    If you're still waiting for things to go back to normal you're missing the reality of what's actually happening. I’m showing you exactly what’s coming up next. It's all right there in my posts since 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,959 ✭✭✭amacca


    OK...once China hits Taiwan....what comes after that?

    How does this human attempt to navigate what comes next and not just survive but thrive/profit from it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    I’ve only been given certain pieces of the crisis events, but what I was told is that a massive re-alignment of the global system is coming. Even though Saudi Arabia is a Western ally right now, that changes when China moves on Taiwan. They’re going to join the BRICS side of the war.

    U.S being mostly isolated, similar to what we’re seeing with the Iran conflict. They might have an ally or two left, but that’s it. China is going to win that war, and it’s going to fundamentally break the current control system and the controlling NHI power on this planet [ thats the plan]

    The way it was explained to me is that money is going to become completely irrelevant here. We’re moving into a total paradigm shift where we finally realize who we are and what’s actually been happening to us.

    We’re going to be meeting with real NHI from other worlds and other places [ explain everything] That’s what they told me. The whole system we’ve been living under is in the process of ending.

    It’s not going to be an easy transition. We don't actually get to that new paradigm until the crisis chaos finally ends, and unfortunately, those crisis events are going to be incredibly dramatic for everyone!!! It’s a massive shake-up, and nobody is going to come out of it untouched.

    I should add this to not be vague.

    The timeline I was given for all of this late 2016. That was the lead up, and the war event in 2017.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,362 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123161557/#Comment_123161557

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123175739/#Comment_123175739

    How do you feel about your predictions from early last year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Did they explain why they were willing to share all their plans with you? Apologies if you have already explained but I haven't read back through all of the thread

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,362 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    That Trump and specifically his team were going to expose things - didn't happen. That alien stuff would be "loud and clear" - didn't happen. That the "real truth" about coverups would come out - nope.

    They've let you down bigly

    Perhaps that's why you are trying to salvage something with this Iran = aliens thing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    I've been talking about this in multiple threads since October 24.

    NHI have shared with me regarding our situation here [gone over this greater detail in other threads]. Earth is a "death trap" system we’ve been recycled through it for a long time.

    According to them, I am part of their real family, and all of us are actually non-physical NHI who have been trapped on this planet with total amnesia. We’ve been cycled through this prison system over and over, but here is the truth when you die that truly you. The physical body you’re in right now is just a container a shell designed to keep you from remembering who you are and what actually happened to us. The control system relies on that amnesia to keep the old world running, but it isn't perfect.

    Sometimes, glitches happen.

    When the system glitches, people start to wake up. The only real difference between me and you right now is that you’re still stuck in the amnesia.

    The free will NHI are working behind the scenes to get this information to the masses so we can finally wake up from this nightmare. But because the control system is so deeply entrenched, it requires a level of manipulation to shake things loose.

    If the system stays exactly as it is, nobody is going to learn a damn thing about nhi reality. It’s too well insulated. That’s why the crisis/chaos has to happen one after another on relatively short time. The control system has to fundamentally break. It’s only through that total breakdown that the amnesia cracks, the glitches happen, and we finally remember.

    We are now entering the stages leading into the final collapse. We just now entered a "forest of collapse we’re traveling through the thick of it to reach the end goal.

    It’s okay if people don’t get it right now abd this sounds crazy. When you’re coming across this for the first time, it’s a lot to process, but you will understand it as the events unfold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Trump’s role more complicated. He was willing to air out the secrets that previous administrations fought to keep buried—like the jfk files (which he ordered released in 2025) and the Epstein files [ not all of it but enough material to cause trouble]

    The Epstein information getting out lets be real caused a huge crack to the control system dohnjoe. It showed the world exactly how the shadow elite operate behind the scenes to maintain things. Trump also ordered a declassification order for ufo disclosure [ forget that here?]

    It is false to claim that Trump wasnt willing at all to share some truth with the public.

    What has happened now is that the crisis events have taken over the agenda and reached a stage that has effectively stripped Trump of his ability to do anything honest.You’d have to be a lunatic and madman to even attempt to declassify the UFO stuff anyway, and Trump is that lunatic. Got a talking to.

    Anyways the crisis events we are seeing right now were originally engineered by the controlling NHI nudging world leaders to follow a very specific demonic path of domination [ dont see the demonic influence are you blind?]

    But there is another group [ told you] the free will NHI who have stepped in to manipulate human crisis events, causing a major disruption so things didn't go exactly to plan for them. They are effectively glitching the human control war system's roadmap.

    Trump involving himself in a war with Iran is a perfect example. While it looks like a standard geopolitical move to the masses, it’s actually a control system war. The bad people in his ear are pushing for this because it keeps the cycle of fear and amnesia going on. [ they dont want anyone learning new stuff about ufos activity here]

    The human chaos is necessary to break the system anyway for the free will nhi.

    The controlling forces want a seamless transition to a new type of cage with the human helpers still in charge, but the free NHI are making sure dont get that here.

    Not right at all crucial distinction donhjoe. I promised disclosure when this occurred. The NHI won't truly become known to the masses until humanity finally stops looking to human leaders for answers and decides they actually want to be free from here.

    We aren't there yet. As long as people are still hyper focused on what the leaders of the control system are doing or saying, the amnesia stays intact. The evidence for that is right here in this forum; the fact that these discussions are still confined to small spaces like this proves the masses are still looking in the wrong direction for help.

    Shift that happens when people stop waiting for a president or a general to save them and instead ask for nhi help. Time will come.

    I am not disappointed by Trump at all. In fact, everything that is happening is going according to plan. The crisis events have already started, and for me, that is a big plus. If nothing were happening, that is when I would be really worried about what nhi told me was not true.

    I’m not depending on Trump to save anything; what matters is the free will NHI involvement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,697 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    All the things you said were going to happen but didn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Pretty much every commentator has been of the view that Trump would fracture global relations cause he did that the first time round… These kinds of things really doesn't require some special alien knowledge. Eg you're now pushing the line about Taiwan being invaded which has been an ongoing concern for years. If it happens you'll then declare that you predicted it and that a NHI told you it was coming. But you aren't remotely unique in these predictions.

    Meanwhile claims that you have made in relation to DOGE exposing something are actually incorrect. Similarly Trump and Co haven't revealed or confirmed any conspiracy theories which you were predicting only last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Either way, you are going to witness it and I wish you all the best on that journey. That is your view, but I think I have been very accurate about what was coming here before it happened.

    Thats all i have take care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,697 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I told you the conflict between Israel and Iran was coming ahead of time.

    No you didn't.

    I said war between Europe and Russia was going to happen too.

    No you didn't.

    And I’m telling you now, China and Taiwan is also next.

    lol. They've had their issues since the 1940s.

    You need to ask your aliens for more up to date info. No point in being abducted by aliens and coming back with outdated info.

    Did they tell you what was going to happen in World War 2?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,362 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    There have been no relevations about JFK, UFOs or any of that.

    In contrast Trump is mentioned 10's of thousands of times in the Epstein files, in the ones we know about, including allegations of child rape. Bondi has been fired 12 days before deposition, you couldn't make it up.

    Even conspiracy theorists have overwhelmingly turned on him, many saying Iran is a deflection (on the back of Greenland and Venezuela - and it works)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Show me one commentator that predicted the events I said would come? Twisting we know it happened now and trying to say this hindsight was seen years ago. I call bullshit on that.

    Trump ran on no new war agenda. Stop trying to pretend that people saw this coming back in 2024.

    True, it doesn't require an alien agenda, but that's what the truth is and that's what people will find out.

    First off, none of my commentary about DOGE is false, but I don't think it's necessary to show you evidence usaid were involved in intelligence operations. The evidence exists online actually sourced it. DOGE stuff is old news, that's all. If you want to go down that road, I can provide evidence?

    Nonsense again.

    I said there was a good chance Trump would release the JFK and Epstein files and talk about UFOs, and that we’d actually learn new things and that’s exactly what’s happening here.

    Despite what the debunkers claim, we are finding out new information. Look at the JFK files: we now know for a fact that CIA agent George Joannides was the handler for the men who fought with Oswald in 1963. That’s a direct link the agency denied for 60 years, and now it’s out in the open. Other stuff that showed a cover up.

    Now we have the President ordering every agency to declassify UFO files while the skeptics try to act like nothing has changed. We just went through a massive disclosure with the Epstein files. What you even saying really?

    Tired last post today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,362 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Okay, in a sentence what will we witness exactly? And roughly when will this happen?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭sbs2010


    Apologies to DJ above- he's asked the same question but more succinctly→

    you tell us skeptical folk roughly when is something going to happen that will make it obvious/irrefutable to us, that NHI and the "control systems" exist?

    And what that event will be?

    Thanks.

    Over to you Cheerful!!



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