Trump and the coming Iran nightmare war

lumphammer2

At present I am VERY scared .... it looks ever more likely that bloody Trump will win in America and he is going to do a huge amount of damage first to Iran and then to the entire world ...

How will a Trumo #2 presidency play out ?? ... this is how ...

November 2024 ... he wins just about ... gloats and says all the usual immature infantile hate filled talk ...

November-December ... Trump puts together a nightmare cabinet of hardliners who would make The Handmaid's Tale country look tame ... just im.agine President Trump and VP MTG ..

January 2025 ... Trump's speech would be full of hate and threats ...

February 2025 ... Trump would up the rhetoric on Iran put more sanctions and target Iranian assets for bombing ... Trump does a probably secret deal with Putin ... Ukraine for Iran basically ....

March 2025 ... Trump would 'discover' some evidence Iran did something ... give them a 48 hour ultimatum ... and then commence bombing them ...

April 2025 ... the Iranian army sees mass casualties and desertion ... many Iranian politicians resign and flee to Russia ...

May 2025 ... Ali Khamenei and Ebrahim Raisi leave Iran for Russia and appoint a caretaker regime ...

June 2025 ... the regime collapses, the last remaining members concede defeat and are arrested ... the Republic of Iran is folded ... American troops take over Tehran and install a puppett MeK regime ....

During this period piracy and chaos in the Persian Gulf begin to affect oil supplies .... the price of oil and gas goes up ... terrorism from ISIS and AQ spiral ...

After the fall of the Iranian Republic groups linked to ISIS and AQ take control of Khuzestan and Balochistan regions ... Jundullah, etc. set up their statelets and the Taliban get involved with a war on IS-Khorasan in the NE of Iran ...

The unpopular MeK control Tehran but backed by 1000s of US troops .... an insurgency of Revolutionary Guards plus other Islamist groups target US troops and trade ... by the end of 2025 the whole world is in a recession worse than the 2008 one ...

Violence spreads to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Palestine, all over the Muslim world ... and terrorist attacks are common in Europe ... 2026 is all about the West fighting various terrorist factions within Iran and other countries ... and the war goes on and on ...

By 2028 most Americans I would hope will have learned their lesson ... never vote for Trump ... sadly they will and the above is what they are voting for ...

RoyalCelt

As trump would be on his last term he'd be truly dangerous. Iran would turn out exactly like Syria. Once the US took out Iran's main capabilities rebel group's would rise up everywhere. And with Russia occupied it would fall.

But it would turn into a war within multiple factions controlling different parts of the country.

chuchuchu

The democrats have themselves to blame, they tried to bury him in court cases and allegations and then to try to bankrupt him. Which they may very well still achieve. They we're told not to do this and that it would provide Trump more support. And why was the covid vaccine miraculously found just days after the last election? Why was the Hunter Biden scandal suppressed on the days leading up to the election? All to the benefit of Biden no doubt. The democrats haven't been playing fair for a long time.

ceadaoin.

If any of that happens, which isn't a certainty , there's nothing you can do about it anyway so why be scared? Making yourself sick over something you have zero control over isn't healthy.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873502#Comment_121873502

Tinfoil central

StevenToast

You'll be grand OP.....Trump won't affect your life in any way.

chuchuchu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873574#Comment_121873574

You do realise that OP comment about war with Iran is crazy tinfoil stuff. The covid vaccine and Hunter Biden scandal are factual.

Enter name here

Wow, words can not describe the stupidity of you socialist woke lefties. The reason the world is in this situation is you.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058339881/trump-and-the-coming-iran-nightmare-war

Scared about something that will probably never happen

Didn’t we see all this nonsense last time he got in? Then he got in and it was fine…well a lot better than now because a war in Europe didn’t start with the help of US to start it

If it happens then get afraid, till then live your life and stop been afraid of dreams

_Kaiser_

That's some amount of paranoia and fear mongering!!

Look, Trump is an idiot and America is tearing itself apart politically and culturally but the above list is just pure speculation.

Biden on the other hand is likewise far too old for the job (and showing it in other ways), and he's just as divisive as Trump to their electorate.

But, assuming you're in Ireland, there's no point in taking all this stress and fear on yourself - in the same way as we need to stop importing their social and culture war ideology, and their aggressive confrontational "with us or against us" mentalities. It is destroying the social and political fabric of our country in the same way as it already has theirs.

The issue isn't so much "what if Trump wins again" as "how the hell is it that the only options are 2 old and divisive men in a country of 330 MILLION people??!"

Their electoral and political system is fundamentally broken when that's the choice that's being put in front of people, but that's a result of the 2 main parties and the permanent Government of civil servants, lobbyists, and so on.

Regardless, we in Ireland won't influence or change anything, now or in November. It's like the weekly protests over Gaza. Aside from the fact that a little reading of history would probably change that tune, the only way that'll be solved is if both sides come to the table and a settlement in reached. Just as in NI during the Troubles, both sides are guilty of atrocities and both sides have seen too many victims of the conflict, but it's not something Ireland will have any influence on. Likewise Ukraine and Russia.

We need to stop involving ourselves or obsessing over the problems of the world. By all means should we make our support or condemnation known through political and diplomatic avenues and bodies like the EU, but we have our own failings and we have our own serious problems to deal with that we're failing on - immigration, housing, health, costs of living, and the increasing polarisation and division of our society (again thanks largely because of the obsessing with America and importing their problems and attitudes).

That's where our focus needs to be.

nacho libre

Trump ignored Bolton's desire to go war with Iran during his presidency. For all Donald's faults he seems reluctant to go to war, much to the chagrin of some on the right in America. I don't think that would change if he does get back in.

Montage of Feck

Trump won't start any war, he's a self interested gobshite who'd let Putin take Europe if he could.

Silentcorner

Is there any chance we could put all these Trump threads into the Conspiracy forum, or better still, some other specific forum where those who want to indulge in their beliefs can do so away from the normal folk?

L.Ball

Trump was largely anti-war and anti-interventionist in his first term, Hillary was baying for blood in Iran and Trump's first term thankfully stopped that. If your time is spent being scared of hypothetical situations with extremely long odds you should probably talk to someone.

beggars_bush

I'm just worried about Trump getting in

What a horrible human being

BolloxChop

I'd be more afraid of FF/FG and the greens getting re-elected next year than what goes on in the failing state that is the USA..

archfi

Extraordinary.

Sort of like fckd up fanfic/derangedfic

SEPT 23 1989

Donald is an anti war hippy at heart

no time for death and wars

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874055#Comment_121874055

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

The above doesn't align with his "finish the problem" remarks.

Ten of Swords

Mod - Moved to CT. These hypothetical scenario's don't belong in CA

farmerval

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058339881/trump-and-the-coming-iran-nightmare-war

The only saviour here is that it's doubtful that Trump as enough interest or ability to follow anything through that takes more than 24 hours to accomplish. Remember the BIG file of the businesses he was stepping away from as President, full of blank sheets. Probably sums up his commitment on following through on anything.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874055#Comment_121874055

Killing the Iranian general in Iraq that time could have really escalated into something worse had Iran not shot down the airliner.

Iran has always been the great satan to some of the neocons. They also play into the left behind/rapture crowd, a couple prominent members of this group was at the opening of the embassy in Jerusalem.

On his own Trump is too vain and petty to care about certain things, but if the right people brown nose him enough or get to be allowed to be close to him I could see him being easily manipulated.

nacho libre

Bolton tried and failed to manipulate him into starting a war with Iran. Bolton fell out with him and eventually left his administration. I don't think he is that easy to manipulate on certain issues.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873667#Comment_121873667

Why is it 'crazy tinfoil stuff' ?? ... what did Trump do on 3rd January 2020 ?? ... what was Trump at since May 2018 ?? ... goading Iran and conducting acts of war on Iran .... Funny you should mention Covid ... only thing that stopped him ... as well the Republicans have form for this type of thing ... Iraq 2003 anybody ?? ...

Trump's obsession with Iran and Venezuela too ... there is an attempt by rightwing media to link the 2 in a plot to assassinate hardliners from the Trump era ... and Trump has form to wage 2 stupid wars on both ...

Danzy

Even bigger Nightmare scenario.

Iran is allowed continue destabilizing the middle east and further a field and it continues to build and escalate those threats.

There shouldn't even be one power plant left in Iran at this stage.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875183#Comment_121875183

That general needed to be killed.

Given what he tried to do in Saudi Arabia and their refinery. With a bit of luck he could have driven oil up to several hundred dollars a barrel.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875605#Comment_121875605

Poor Saudi Arabia, at least Trump will stand up to them. Didn't they even try to link Iran to 911 after this.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875749#Comment_121875749

It would be poor us, and millions would have died from the economic fallout in poorer countries

Saudi Arabia would have survived ok.

Sonic the Shaghog

Jaysus we're back to this nonsense now? The propaganda over is getting desperate.

Weren't we meant to be living in a post nuclear apocalypse after war with North Korea or Russia under him by now?

Or what about how HE was the one who was gonna gave have the West neck deep in an Iran conflict with more nuclear exchanges?

Like grand, hate whatever side you want but lads try to be in the middle and see usually both sides will screw you.

There are people out there saying Biden sending the US military to build an aid pier in Gaza is a way to false flag Hezbollah attacking US forces directly and invaded Iran.

forrestgeorge

Trump derangement syndrome off the charts, how quick we forget Trump was the only president in living memory NOT to start a new war.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876503#Comment_121876503

He also seems to have more power than the sitting current Presidents, according to those who dislike the Orange man.