Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

He didn't say it was a fluke that she won.

Do you think there is a skill to winning the lottery or getting hit by lightening?

Blackmore is the reason a sport dripping in misogyny no longer really uses the term "female jockey".

She is an absolute hero who proved given a chance women can be better than men at elite sport.

But lets eviscerate her achievements, she was just a really lucky girly who was given the best horsie.

🙄

The US womens national soccer team were beaten by a team of u15 boys.

It was a conditioned training match.

A similar one happened in 2019 with Chelsea's Men's first team drawing with their youth team.

It's why we don't get carried away with training matches or use them to gauge anything.

That's pretty flawed logic, as I'm sure you are well aware.
There are many sports, including physical sports sports, where girls choose to compete with boys. The most skilled girls are competitive, despite the obvious disadvantage. Ultimate that is their choice is entire there to make.

Key words in bold alone invalidates your already very shaky argument.

There is no sex separation in jockeys as it is, by a wide margin, a matter determined by skill, not strength. There is a massive amount of data to back that up. In some markets females have an allowance which give them an advantage.
The data showing equal skills, completely justifies the mixed participation of male/female jockeys.
Trying to apply that to any sport other than horse racing is illogical.

Horse Racing, particularly jump racing is one of the most physically demanding and dangerous sports on the planet.

Not really. Jockey's need balance and stability. Core strength. Even if they need to be relatively strong for their weight, the fact that are so small statured, means they are way below average in terms of strength and physical power.
The average guy going to the gym casually will be stronger and more powerful than an elite jockey.

Anecdotally, Females generally tend to outperform males at balance, core, centre of gravity type challenges, for obvious reasons. Men generally out perform on strength, speed, power- again obvious reasons.

Apologies less than a second.

Absolutely.

Not as colossal as 3 seconds though.

Who knows what will happen in 100 or 200 years.

If you said even 30 years ago a female would win the Gold Cup and the National you'd be laughed out of the building.

Certain people still can't come to terms with it.

somehow justify men to compete in Female sports

No one on here that I can see if advocating for Men to play in Female Sports.

It's pretty hard to advocate for Trans sports people.

When in Ireland at least there doesn't appear to be any.

Which is hardly a surprise given that many Trans people are afraid to actually leave their home, the idea of organised sports is a Moon away from that.

But lets continue taking them down several pegs, they have had it too good for too long.

From Laurel Hubbard to sex testing in five years: why the Olympics U-turned on transgender rules

Notably, one thing stood out most of all in an IOC survey of 1,100 athletes, many of them female Olympians or former Olympians: the majority of the women were in favour of change.

“There was a strong consensus that fairness and safety in the female category requires clear, science-based eligibility rules, and that protecting the category was a common priority,” said Dr Jane Thornton, the IOC’s director of health, medicine and science on Thursday. Her appointment in 2024, replacing Dr Richard Budgett, who had helped author the 2021 framework, was – say insiders – another key part in the IOC’s change of heart.

Then there was the science. It is hardly news that males are stronger, faster and have better endurance than females. As the IOC policy document makes clear, that advantage is 10-12% in most running and swimming events, and greater than 100% in events that involve explosive power, including collision, lifting and punching sports.

The big difference in recent years is there have been more studies that show that when even men reduce their testosterone levels, that male advantage is largely still retained. In the others, transgender women and DSD athletes retain an advantage over natal women even after hormone treatment, because they have undergone male puberty.

I don't know how someone could continue to dance around this with strawman arguments, labels like "misogyny", implication that anti-trans agendas are driving objective facts, and a lack of knowledge of sport is to blame when the science is fairly clear, and female athlete consensus is overwhelming.

I also don't understand why anyone, trans or not, would fundamentally think that trans rights to inclusion, a major minority, should actually trump mainstream biological female rights to fair competition.

And that an argument is then pushed that belief in competition grouping by biological sex equates to being anti-trans in a broader sense, which is a highly disingenuous argument.

Polls since 2021 only show an increasing considerable majority believe that transgender women should not compete with biological women in competitive sport as well.

So what are we saying - not only are biological female athletes and the broader public wrong, but objective fact-based science is wrong too?

I can maybe have some level of appreciation for someone coming at the debate from a social inclusion point of view, but the fanatical denial of hard science and dismissal of biological women's opinions and rights as almost irrelevant is mind-boggling.

Here’s a suggestion. If transpeople stopped trying to invade spaces that aren’t for them, transwomen kept out of women’s sports and locker rooms, and stopped shoving their ideology down our throats at every opportunity, they might feel more accepted in the world.
I mean, even look at the new IOC ruling. Having spent the last 10 years force teaming LGB people, and then ‘intersex’ people into their big stripey ‘queer’ club, suddenly this new regulation is all about trans, when arguably those most affected right now are the ‘intersex’ DSD athletes that you seem to forget are part of your rainbow family. They hardly get a mention when people are on radio, tv and print media lamenting the blatant transphobia of the new regulations.
Transwomen can wear whatever they like, but they are men, and they need to stay in their lane - in the men’s.

To be fair the men of flojos era were equally doped up.

The 1988 olympic 100m final is regarded as the dirtiest in history as 6 out of 8 were done for doping at some point in their careers.

However it is interesting that era is the closest they've been.

don’t bother, I asked and got no answer