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Hyundai Ioniq 5

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭denismc


    You can use the "Car Scanner" app for most cars, you just select the profile for the car you want to check and it will give the most relevant data for the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Seurat


    i have car scanner with a decent obdii reader

    I can tell you my 231 hyundai reads 100% soh for the battery and the kw is the same as the day i bought it. Its a 77kw battery but i only ever saw it as high as 73 or maybe 74 cant remember, point is i know in first 3 years the largest degradation happens i presume hyundai buffered this so people wouldn’t feel done out. My range at 100% is exact same as 3 years ago. Maybe dc charged it 10 times, outside of that maybe 5 more times i have charged to 100%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    My 221 (73kWh) is still at 100%. I just plugged in my own OBD II dongle to check.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    My own 221 has been fast charged 17 times since it was bought new in February 2022. As stated above SOH is still 100%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭k123456


    is there a particular

    OBD II dongle people recommend, will one from the Chinese Websites suffice



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭insular1


    Bjorn had a recent video on this. Seems like Kia and Hyundai intentionally misreport SOH. My 2018 Ioniq still reads 100% despite 160k km on the clock. Bit sneaky really but at the same time I have had no real noticeable range drop. Still will do 200-220km in warm summer weather with a light foot.

    https://youtu.be/LzFHGLEq7jM



  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Next step update car firmware , or get the service centre to do it

    The problem is that the firmware update process requires the USB connector to work, which is why my local dealer keeps telling me there are no updates available, even though I still have "winter mode" in my EV settings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭bkeane


    Winter mode is not a default update I think (I have it still on mine and USB working fine) It is only an enhancement so not automatically installed. You need to ask them to install it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭dsandson


    Getting the battery pre-conditioning working is 2 updates. 1 dealer update to the BMS, and an infotainment update.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭dsandson


    As far as I know they let the upper buffer reduce as the battery reduces in capacity. I see that as an engineering choice, meaning that range shouldnt reduce over time unless the upper buffer is eliminated. So SOH they quote is actually the useable SOH.

    Whilst not industry standard the only issue is trying to understand the full battery SOH.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Ev fan


    I don't think this is good practice as it fools some owners into thinking I still have 100% SOH so the battery has zero degradation. It does raise an interesting issue though- is Hyundai alone in allowing the upper buffer to be reduced and does that have on impact when charging to 100% or is that a stupid question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Kealyboy


    Hi everyone, I’m looking the but an EV and really like the look of the Hyundai ioniq 5. I have a 30k budget. Seen a 2022 premium plus 73kw battery online with only 37000km for 28k. I’d be hoping to get it for 27k tho.
    Any advice on this car… I’m here in stories the expensive service i.e. battery coolant. And issues with the ICCU.

    Any advice a good purchase or not?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭k123456


    Has anyone here , imported a Genesis from the UK

    Genesis are part of the Hyundai group, I wonder would they be treated as in warranty here, and be serviced by

    Hyundai ROI

    https://www.google.com/search?q=hyundai+genesis&oq=hyuandai+genisis&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCwgBEAAYChgLGIAEMgYIABBFGDkyCwgBEAAYChgLGIAEMgsIAhAAGAoYCxiABDILCAMQABgKGAsYgAQyCwgEEAAYChgLGIAEMgsIBRAAGAoYCxiABDILCAYQABgKGAsYgAQyCwgHEAAYChgLGIAEMgsICBAAGAoYCxiABDILCAkQABgKGAsYgATSAQg3MDI2ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Surely this “500Km for €5” claim is a bit of a stretch by Fairview Motors ??

    IMG_4226.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,536 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    18kWh per 100km at 5c a unit would be under €5 for the 500km. 6c just over the 500km.

    I was seeing 16kWh on a recent trip to Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    It's pretty close to being bang on as TitianGerm was saying. I'm seeing similar efficiency at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    I’m not questioning the efficiency of the Ioniq 5 or any other EV. They are all incredibly cheap to run if charged at home at cheap night/ev rates.
    My point is electricity isn’t readily available to purchase at 5c or 6c rates to cover 500Km. Short EV charging rate windows at those prices are only available for a few hours which won’t even fully charge a 54kWh Ioniq 5 from empty. You might get close if you have 3 phase domestic power which is very rare in Ireland. Even if you could fully charge it at 5c rates, you’re not going to travel 500Km without topping up at 66c per kWh at a public charger. 500Km for say €10+ would be a much more realistic claim to make in such an ad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,536 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    The ad doesn't say €5 for 500 km continuous driving. Most people do 90% + of their charging at home.

    I've been driving EVs since 2020 and my wife since 2022 and combined we've charged less than 15 times on public chargers over that time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    No it’s current on DD, see link below. Kearys have an almost identical graphic format on their cover photo but it’s slightly nearer realistic at 500Km for €6 but still bulls**t.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/41698851



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    No it doesn’t. It is however quite misleading especially for a prospective buyer that’s coming from an ICE car. Such buyers are used to getting 200Km for €20 of diesel or whatever. A realistic price for night rate electricity for an EV owner to get 500Km worth of charge in one hit even at home is around 13c per kWh. Probably twice it if you have to charge during the day. Still way cheaper than an ICE vehicle but not a €5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭Jo Satan


    The ad is aimed at commuters, of whom only 10% are travelling over an hour one way.
    People are very rarely charging from empty.
    You would typically start the week with 80% - around 330km
    I can put around 700kms a week into the car during the 3hr window at 5.5 cents per kwh
    I can put an extra 250km a week in from my solar battery at around 6 cents per kwh
    I can charge from solar which technically costs me 25 cents kwh.
    But then my power bills for the year are negative so you could say I get my average 500kms a week for nothing.

    If I did a trip which was over 360km I would have to charge using a public charger unless I was stealing power from a relative. I have yet to use a public charger.

    If I had regular trips over 400km I would own a different car, more solar and a bigger battery and three phase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Sounds like a very effective method to keep your EV topped up during the 5.5c cheap rate 3 hr window. Assuming you’re charging at 7kW, then you can top up by 21kWh max each night at home and adding around 140Km of range each time. It’s an ideal use case but in some ways a 54kWh EV like an Ioniq 5 is a little wasted in such circumstances. Something closer to a 30kWh battery be a better fit for an EV driver doing so little driving. Maybe an Ioniq 28.

    Your 500Km per week isn’t really for nothing unless you somehow got the PV panels, battery and install for free which is unlikely. It’s cheap motoring though for a reasonable capital investment up front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Cheapish Ioniq 5 in N.I at €14K approx;

    https://www.usedcarsni.com/2021-Hyundai-IONIQ-5-125kW-Premium-58-kWh-5dr-Auto-398180182

    Mileage is relatively high but it’s a decent sized EV for ID.3 money. Drivers window switch is very worn looking in the photos. Is this a common issue on them ? Other than the dreaded ICCU and dead 12V batteries, are there any other issues on higher mileage Ioniq 5’s to watch out for ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭John arse


    It might be current but I'd say it hasn't been updated for years,not that long ago I was paying 8 cent night rate with Energia on a D/N plan.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭Jo Satan


    Between savings on power and diesel in addition to excess FIT payments my break even point on the solar and battery is 20 months. Which is this July at which point I'll get paid around €700 per annum to power and heat my house plus drive up to 700km per week.

    I guess my point is if a rational person looks at their own situation and costs it is irrelevant what anyone says, be they advertisers or online nit-pickers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    You’re situation is exceptionally economical but unique to you. I’m just pointing out that in general for most Ioniq 5 owners or potential owners, the claim in the ad based on a €5 is wildly optimistic sales tactic. If you wish to defend it that’s up to you. For the majority of EV owners, a solar PV installation isn’t relevant in the running costs of an EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You're wasting your time @joe1303l, he's just dropped into the EV forum for a quick visit and to waste our time asserting his view.

    It will blow over quickly enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Nothing wrong with that ad.
    If you’re buying a new EV, you’re gonna research cheap rate electricity.
    You’re bound to come across the Pinergy rate.
    So that mileage for price is perfectly achievable.
    It’s like normal mpg only in reverse. You won’t get 1000km to a tank if you’re doing constant 5km drives from cold. But you will if you’re sitting at 100km/h on the motorway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    No electricity rate available that’ll allow you to do a 500Km journey in an Ioniq 5 for a €5 at the moment. Especially true with the small battery version of the Ioniq 5 listed on the ad.
    If you’re doing 100Kph on the motorway in a car you’re just being a nuisance to other road users. Best stick to old National roads if that’s your thing.



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