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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    There's a suggestion that this was a key Iranian nuclear facility. If true, this is Israel forcing America to increase its strikes and role in this war

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    You haven't engaged honestly once on Ukraine war thread.

    I'm not here to engage with you.

    You are a Russian shill or useful idiot spreading division; taking advantage on openness intrinsic in Western countries.

    I just want other poster to know who and what you are.

    Many Ukrainian die today from Iranian drones?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭Tazz T




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    Bahrain mulling the death penalty for the recording of and sharing of Iran strikes.

    The regime there must be getting twitchy.

    It just feels like the GCC is a bunch of dominos waiting on a push.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Bushehr Nuclear reactor was also attacked by Israel yesterday with bombs hitting 350 meters away from the reactor, 163 Staff members had to evacuate yesterday after attacking them for the 2nd time. 300 remain there in the compound

    IAEA reported that no leakage of radioactive material, but Kuwait put out a warning for it's citizens to take precautions.

    Looks like Israel has gone off the rails.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭tarvis


    mr Trump is going to find his Israeli “partner”is landing him and the USA in very deep doodoo - doing his own thing for his own agenda behind Trumps back and getting away with it.
    Today the G7 met Rubio to discuss the US / Israel Iran war. - it has in fact become the US Iran war and the Israel Lebanon war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-us-israel-news-updates/card/u-s-most-of-iran-s-missile-production-facilities-are-damaged-or-destroyed-Oyzz0XRYwy15jBlHtjlJ

    Does that mean Iran has less drones for export to other conflict zones?

    or have their any of the Iranian allies built their own facilities to bomb innocent children in other countries who don't count ?

    #hope no one including any friends of Iranian regime or its allies are offended by this post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    C'mon man, get on message, Iran doesn't have allies, that suggests positive attributes, the regime has proxies or is a member of the axis of evil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    More confirmation of KC135's damaged or destroyed at Prince Sultan Airbase in Saudi Arabia.

    The US are having their force multipliers and support aircraft hit.
    The impact on strike missions, penetration depth and indeed even Israeli strikes reliant on US refuelling support will be felt.
    It won't be huge, but it's certainly an effective means of reducing strike tempo and size.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,525 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    it happened 10 days ago, and judging by the line of tankers shown in FR24, it hasnt impacted them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭combat14


    looks like iran not buying trumps 10 day window any more..... as israel goes after several iranian nuclear sites today..

    In a post on X, Araghchi that Israel “has hit 2 of Iran’s largest steel factoriesa power plant and civilian nuclear sites among other infrastructure”.

    “Israel claims it acted in coordination with the US,” Araghchi said, adding that the attack “contradicts POTUS extended deadline for diplomacy”.

    Iran will “exact HEAVY price”, he said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Hence why the 1st 2 words of my post are "more confirmation".
    If you read the thread linked there is further detail including the IR satellite track of the fires.

    We know there are 5 damaged KC135s at a minimum and despite the line of tankers currently active?
    The loss of 5 airframes impacts operational readiness, attrition and standby availability.
    You more than most posters should be aware of that.

    Cheerleading that there isn't a problem because there's a line of tankers orbiting?
    It's a bit facile isn't it?
    Even with the additional crews available from the 5 damaged airframes used to fly additional sorties on the undamaged airframes.
    What impact will overuse of those 60yo airframes have on their fatigue life and maintenance requirements?

    The US KC135 fleet is a vital force multiplier, but it is creaking at the seams and was long before this latest escapade.
    The issues with the KC46 still cropping up and it's not yet being fully operational?
    Only compound the fleets problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I do wonder if the US marines and 82nd airborne are going to the middle east but everyone expects them to be used in Iran but there actually deployed in theatre against the Houtis in Yemen instead. Take control of the coast of Yemen. Tankers that are not stuck inside the strait of Hormuz told to go through the Red Sea then instead and through the suez canal. Maybe there is places at the western edge of Saudi Arabia that tankers could fill up with gas and oil from there instead? More Saudi Arabia might join in then but not against Iran but the Houtis in Yemen as well as US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    That’s an interesting thesis, there is a pipeline across Saudi and port on west coast where they are exporting about 3x more than Iran

    Anyways these paratroopers and marines are about to be killed by Russian weapons, gonna be awkward one for Trump to keep sweeping under the carpet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    That pipeline will surely be a target now with Israel targeting Iranian facilities. The pipeline is vulnerable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    That pipeline is buried for a reason, pipelines are cheap to fix, just ask the Russians, more likely pumping stations be targets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Most of the pipelines in Saudi Arabia are buried and well constructed but the entry and exit points and waypoints would be the targets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Best of luck to the Iranians then, especially when Saudis call their nuclear armed ally over on other side of Iran→ Pakistan (3x Irans population) into the war, there’s already reports of Saudis telling and probably soon paying US to bomb Iran back to the dark ages

    I said it before, attacking all their neighbours was the worst strategic mistake Iranian regime could have made



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The US don't have the capacity to do any of that. There's talk that they are rapidly running out of missiles and had made no preparation for a long war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    They have plenty of dumb bombs to level power and more critically for Iran water infrastructure (nor do they care about laws and rules) due to complete air superiority where large/slow b52s and a10s are flying about the place without hassle, the switch already started two weeks back

    Iran turning into a larger version of Syrian civil war is a distinct possibility now

    Things can get worse, much much worse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    One thing about this conflict is that there are three main countries involved and the leadership in each are just so grotesque:

    • USA: Trump was high on his own supply after capturing Maduro. He now seems to be unravelling before our very eyes. The lies have become more extravagant. The corruption is obnoxiously blatant. His point man, Hegseth, behaves like a 14 year old boy who never saw a nut that didn't need to be hit with a jack hammer. They both seem to be genuinely tumescent by the death and destruction caused by their armed forces.
    • Iran: A regime fresh off of slaughtering tens of thousands of their own civilians for the crime of protesting, only the latest in a long series of massacres of their own people.
    • Israel: Netanyahhu, Smotrich & Ben Gvir - have spent the last 2 and half years slaughtering civilians in Gaza while overseeing the continued theft of land in the West Bank

    It would be nice if they could all be eliminated and perhaps then their respective countries could be led by some less odious people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    All of them and their families deserve to be taken out. Actually the American and Israeli population deserve a good comeuppance too - unlike the poor Iranians, they actually voted in these evil ba*tards multiple times, they are complicit in the daily war crimes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    That ignores the reality that it would trigger an energy and resulting commodity and food crises on a global scale. Pretty clear that US debt could be called in at that point basically collapsing the US economy as well. Attacking Iran has opened a hornets nest and if someone sane was in charge maybe could be walked back but that appears a distant possibility



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Those Iranian cluster bombs are causing more damage in Israel. RIP :(

    These are indiscriminate weapons being fired into civilian areas, and difficult for defensive measures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    In addition to strike 10 days ago, that honestly should've convinced the USAF that parking aircraft nose to nose and wingtip to wingtip on the ramp was a bad idea.
    Another strike today destroyed at least 1 KC135 and damaged and multiple damaged.
    Further attrition on the fleet, but I'm sure someone will be along shortly to say it's not an issue 😉

    Basic operational security seems to have been abandoned.
    While dispersal of tankers to revetments requires a lot of space and hard stands.
    It's one of the big advantages of bases like Prince Sultan AB.
    Huge amounts of space for dispersal.
    The lesson dealt by Iran 2 weeks ago?
    Completely ignored as America barrels on.
    Dangerous hubris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    We are already in one without a clear way out especially for gulf states whose very existence is now threatened… just like Israel’s was.

    Iran went from having a couple of enemies to pissing off everyone around them by putting them into an existential crisis where short of a miracle now everything will just go rapidly downhill from here

    When you have an aggressive cancer growing best get it and over with by cutting it out, a lesson being learned from Azerbaijan down to Oman



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭batman75


    Israel doing everything to up the escalation ladder. It's always been Israels m.o. to hit much harder than they've been hit. The problem is trying that logic on a giant country like Iran is madness. The Iranians have already destroyed one water treatment plant so I wouldn't be shocked if a few more are put out of circulation in retaliation for Israeli strikes on Iranian steel plants.

    This is a war Israel cannot win. Never mind the U.S. who have seen 13 bases rendered useless within a month of operations against Iran. Early talks of the Houthis entering the fray. As it is the IDF are overwhelmed with morale tanking. By all accounts Israel has lost 100 tanks trying to make headway in Lebanon. They never learn. They tried it on before with Hezbollah and were sent packing. They got hammered by Iran last year and came back for more this year. Absolutely puzzling.

    It would probably take a ground invasion to remove the Israeli regime so that seems unlikely unless the people rise up against them. They have set Israel on a path to ruin.



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