Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

bogman_bass · 26-03-2026 01:29PM

I actually spat my tea out when I read that 😂

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2026 01:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124323033#Comment_124323033

Video of Shannon Vision selling;

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2185039765639252

148multi · 26-03-2026 03:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342066#Comment_124342066

What's your opinion of shannon stan

bogman_bass · 26-03-2026 04:07PM

new proofs are up

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2026 04:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342476#Comment_124342476

I haven't used him, so can't say. 3 generations of good maternal breeding in him, so you'd expect good cows from him.

I have Shannon Samurai and Drumline S1185 straws already. Both have Eravalle breeding, so that's why I didn't get him.

patsy_mccabe · 26-03-2026 04:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342503#Comment_124342503

Any movers or shakers?

Suckler farmer · 26-03-2026 05:12PM

Drumline S replacement 198 up to 214

BB4438 from 69 down to 18

dowlerswozere · 26-03-2026 05:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342476#Comment_124342476

ive had 3 calves from him this year fierce easy calved small born and lively at birth hard to know yet until theres a bit more growth on them

limo_100 · 26-03-2026 06:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342718#Comment_124342718

had one here lovely heifer but didn’t grow much but still debating weather i should keep her or not she’s low and short but very wide and great temperament

V6400 · 26-03-2026 10:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342597#Comment_124342597

my old stock bull dropped like a stone to 1 star, have 12 heifers kept off him, could end up in bother for stars in the next few years.

limo_100 · 26-03-2026 10:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124343607#Comment_124343607

think your ok if they where 4 or 5 star heifers at one time. You could be in trouble when the next scheme starts but that’s not a problem for now.

BeGrand2025 · 26-03-2026 10:43PM

Some rambling here while I update an excel page of all the PG bulls I'm interested in or use.

Powerful Proper dropped from 4* to 3* replacement. His milk dropped from 4.70kg to -1.90kg since Nov 2024. Other stats dropped a little too. Why was he pushed as a bull to bring back the maternal aspects to the breed. I've two daughters from him I was thinking of breeding from but not with those milk figures.

Shannon Stan dropped a good bit in index value but still 5* Rep and Terminal. Carcass weight and confirmation slowly dropping but still very good figures. Like Powerful Proper his milk started high at 4.20kg and has only dropped to 3kg so he must have milky daughters.

Keltic Rembrandt's figures changed a little, mostly for the better. Milk at 0.50kg, I'm surprised there isn't more records from his daughters to get a higher reliability figure.

Erebos and Nebbiolo have milk at 8.80kg now. They'd be great bulls to bring milk back into a herd that went to far on terminal traits.

Ardlea Rigby's terminal traits have gone up more. 39 kg carcass weight and 2.47 confirmation scale. Very few daughter records. Not a lot of people using him to breed from. Same with Ardlea Rolex.

Tomschoice Oriflamme's figures somehow went up even more. 2.84 confirmation, 35.7kg carcass and only 1.7% calving diff.

Charlois, Recif and Omega figures staying the same, both a little improvement in milk.

Simmental Rathlee Pirate dropped from 5 star Rep to 3 star. Terminal dropped 5 to 4. A lot of PG bulls that are hyped up as being a standout of the breed end up dropping to average.

Sergeant Bilco · 27-03-2026 09:49AM

I may be wrong but it my understanding that milk figures are based on calf and weanling weight gain, if a new bull has just heifers calving last year it may bring down milk figures as they don't milk as well as 2nd ,3rd or 4th lactation. Also creep feeding can skew the figures. In one sense it's good that figures aren't static and are being evaluated as time passes, all this doesn't mean that I have 100% confidence in the figures as I know that there is political decisions being made in icbf to lead/drive us in a certain direction

Hard Knocks · 27-03-2026 10:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342503#Comment_124342503

Is the excel file not available?

patsy_mccabe · 27-03-2026 10:35AM

These are the milk proofs (back to Nov 2024) for LM4407 TWEEDDALE LENNOX. All these proofs are with the genomic profile known for the bull. And this is just one example. There are loads of other bulls like POWERFUL PROPER LM7416. Bulls dropping for Milk from 5 Stars to 1 Star. That tells me that they can't tell anything about milk from Genomic Testing.

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