I actually spat my tea out when I read that 😂
Video of Shannon Vision selling;
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2185039765639252
What's your opinion of shannon stan
new proofs are up
I haven't used him, so can't say. 3 generations of good maternal breeding in him, so you'd expect good cows from him.
I have Shannon Samurai and Drumline S1185 straws already. Both have Eravalle breeding, so that's why I didn't get him.
Any movers or shakers?
Drumline S replacement 198 up to 214
BB4438 from 69 down to 18
ive had 3 calves from him this year fierce easy calved small born and lively at birth hard to know yet until theres a bit more growth on them
had one here lovely heifer but didn’t grow much but still debating weather i should keep her or not she’s low and short but very wide and great temperament
my old stock bull dropped like a stone to 1 star, have 12 heifers kept off him, could end up in bother for stars in the next few years.
think your ok if they where 4 or 5 star heifers at one time. You could be in trouble when the next scheme starts but that’s not a problem for now.
Some rambling here while I update an excel page of all the PG bulls I'm interested in or use. Powerful Proper dropped from 4* to 3* replacement. His milk dropped from 4.70kg to -1.90kg since Nov 2024. Other stats dropped a little too. Why was he pushed as a bull to bring back the maternal aspects to the breed. I've two daughters from him I was thinking of breeding from but not with those milk figures.
Shannon Stan dropped a good bit in index value but still 5* Rep and Terminal. Carcass weight and confirmation slowly dropping but still very good figures. Like Powerful Proper his milk started high at 4.20kg and has only dropped to 3kg so he must have milky daughters.
Keltic Rembrandt's figures changed a little, mostly for the better. Milk at 0.50kg, I'm surprised there isn't more records from his daughters to get a higher reliability figure.
Erebos and Nebbiolo have milk at 8.80kg now. They'd be great bulls to bring milk back into a herd that went to far on terminal traits.
Ardlea Rigby's terminal traits have gone up more. 39 kg carcass weight and 2.47 confirmation scale. Very few daughter records. Not a lot of people using him to breed from. Same with Ardlea Rolex.
Tomschoice Oriflamme's figures somehow went up even more. 2.84 confirmation, 35.7kg carcass and only 1.7% calving diff.
Charlois, Recif and Omega figures staying the same, both a little improvement in milk.
Simmental Rathlee Pirate dropped from 5 star Rep to 3 star. Terminal dropped 5 to 4. A lot of PG bulls that are hyped up as being a standout of the breed end up dropping to average.
I may be wrong but it my understanding that milk figures are based on calf and weanling weight gain, if a new bull has just heifers calving last year it may bring down milk figures as they don't milk as well as 2nd ,3rd or 4th lactation. Also creep feeding can skew the figures. In one sense it's good that figures aren't static and are being evaluated as time passes, all this doesn't mean that I have 100% confidence in the figures as I know that there is political decisions being made in icbf to lead/drive us in a certain direction
Is the excel file not available?
These are the milk proofs (back to Nov 2024) for LM4407 TWEEDDALE LENNOX. All these proofs are with the genomic profile known for the bull. And this is just one example. There are loads of other bulls like POWERFUL PROPER LM7416. Bulls dropping for Milk from 5 Stars to 1 Star. That tells me that they can't tell anything about milk from Genomic Testing.
anyone used this bull or have any feedback on him. Looking for a good sexed blue bull that’s not red and it’s not that easy to find currently.
Can't answer re bb9580, but hear good things about bb5214 from Dovea, think seanhorse used him
I will look him up see if there is sexed available. @Seanhorse91 how do you rate him? I could go with an de buff from Dovea but thinking to stay away from more widely used one if that makes sense just to have something different
Jaylex has a good vid on ytube, put up by Dovea
that's some heifer in fairness not far off the pick of them, thats what I was saying about an de buff he has a full pen of them but nice heifers all the same. I have a cracker of a nox heifer of a lm cow if I could get a sexed straw and keep her having heifers she would throw some top class calves
nox heifer calf. Just took the jacket off her today impressed me with how she’s being doing. This the the reason I want a sexed straw for this cow again. Think it’s the best calf I ever had. How do people manage this good calves just let them out like normal or should she be kept with creep?
Give her as much as she can eat, she won't get fat anyway. Blues need meal and a lot of it at that.
she hasn’t started on it yet but she’s a month old now today. I think there’s money to be made in her in a special heifer sale all going well. Il let her back to gen pop this week they have access to calf of muscli
Leave her grow, has cow much milk. Start creep at 4 to 5 months adlib
yeah she has lots of milk in fairness. She’s a good lim cow. So il just let her out with the other cows and calves and introduce her to creep with the rest of them so?
Bistouri is a very good bull. Average calved, thrive well and can throw great colours. If you’ve straws of him, well worth using on a good straight limo
anybody tried Novateur BB894?
I have one off him bull calf no problems calving very impressed.
Is supposed to be carrying the red gene so Im disappointed it didn’t carry over with this lad
Will use him again though
A calf's hair colour changes from 3 - 6 months, the 'baby hair' is replaced by the true colour.
good calf! Were you lucky enough to have him come polled?
