How long until we see €2 a litre and will it push more to EV's faster?

Should be a good bit more than 20c off off diesel

The claim is that they're taking 20 off excise, which would be 25 off post-VAT price. There's also the 2c NORA levy going, and a 8c reduction in wholesale prices (for now…) so should be something like 36c off diesel. Or 31c if the state is claiming the post-VAT value of the excise reduction.

15c excise, 2c NORA and 5.5c cut in wholesale for petrol would be 27c off petrol, again if they're not rolling the VAT in to the excise drop.

They're ditching the discs soon-ish, like the UK. Gardai don't need them with the mobility app.

I expect it costs less than a fiver to send out a disc, so there will be some savings but not a huge amount; plus at this point the state probably sees some of these things as a subsidy for An Post!

Using CSNA figures which have been solid so far, it doesn't mean there won't be another rise a day later!

There's no real way of knowing when somebody is using their home supply to charge a car and the public chargers are crazy expensive as it is, any increase on that and somebody without a driveway will have no incentive at all to go electric. It's not all doom and gloom though, every mile driven in an EV helps with our emissions figures as well which reduces the upcoming EU emissions fines

The latest I heard was that from midnight tomorrow (not sure if that means tonight or Tuesday night) until the end of May there will be a 17c excise+NORA cut on petrol and 22c cut to diesel. There will also be further supports for bus and logistics companies who still use diesel. Still looking at over €2 a liter for diesel mind… 2.25 at the place I passed earlier today

Could we make an argument to cut the NORA levy altogether given that it doesn't seem to have worked this time

It’s already getting close in some areas. Prices usually spike right before summer holidays too, so your timeline for May sounds about right. People will definitely look at EVs once it hits that psychological barrier.

I was wondering that about kerosene. Ridiculous.

Yeah that's what the fuel retailers association crowd (can't remember their exact names) have said. Yet when duty gets added at midnight on budget day it goes up immediately… Funny that. We've been told the CCPC is going to protect consumers to make sure that won't happen, which is another way of saying the consumer won't be protected

Truckers get a Diesel Rebate Scheme back dated to the 1st of January. Nothing at all for anybody that had to fill their kerosene tank in the last couple of weeks. But apparently the most vulnerable being looked after

It's 237.9 per litre of diesel in the KCR in Terenure this morning. Petrol is 205.9.

I'd find it very strange if an order made over the phone for future delivery resulted in immediate teleportation of delivery to site.

Or a very early morning delivery happened and they didn't change the price until later in the day.

Anyway, can't they just raise prices if they want to? Like any shop can.

What's strange about it?

Is there some sort of law that businesses can only increase prices when the delivery truck is outside the door?

The way it works is .. a station buys fuel at a certain price then gets a delivery which is a higher price , most stations won’t put up the price till old stock is used up and new stock is being used .. that’s why prices can change at any time.
A lot people on the various Facebook pages are expecting an immediate change in price tonight at 12 that won’t happen at the majority of stations . The busier forecourts who get daily deliveries will reduce quicker but don’t be surprised to see majority not dropping prices till closer to weekend, and by that stage wholesale prices could have increased further. I imagine the average should be around €2.10 for diesel come the weekend.

Therre's no law, no, but the claim is that they decrease the price based on deliveries. Hence why it takes a week for the price at the pump to change

That only makes sense if stations are getting 3 fills a day. Remember that petrol stations need to make a profit as well and it all starts to make sense

The extra fuel allowance is a very crude and unfair way of doing it.

Penalises those of us who get up in the morning.

With the reduction in dino juice taxes it benefits the heavier users, including SUV, van and pickup truck drivers. The benefit to somebody driving a Corolla or Focus is proportionately less. The bigger polluters in this instance have been given a greater benefit

Home heating oil has been announced as a targeted measure, again it's likely somebody in the middle will get no benefit and just have to suck up the extra cost of a fill. Not sure the NORA levy applies to home heating oil but regardless it's increased from under a euro to €1.90 so 2c will make **** all difference

And they have to pay COD, no credit given? Must be one of the few businesses operating on that model