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Kerry Co Op Shares

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    To be fair, many of their competitors are getting slaughtered share price wise in recent years. Givaudan, DSM-Firmenich, Symrise and IFF.

    In saying that, there was an unattributed quote from someone senior about looking forward to the share price hitting 200 euro in the Sunday Times in late 2021 or so. Not exactly how things have panned out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭ftm2023


    2 of the 4 companies you mentioned had pretty disastrous takeovers/mergers in recent times so at least there’s some sort of an explanation as to why their share prices are down

    Dennis Brosnan said at an AGM a very long time ago “you either make dust or eat dust” when he was talking about takeovers etc in their industry. In the decades that have followed it’s been all consolidation in the industry.

    I’m no expert but I think when Kerry missed out on Du-Pont that time to IFF that management knew deep down that Kerry’s faith was sealed, that eventually Kerry themselves would get swallowed up.

    Givaudan have a new CEO taking over this year as far as I know, generally when a new CEO comes in there they like to make a big purchase. Givaudan’s PE ratio is 23.6 whereas Kerry’s is only 16.48.

    Givaudan would probably want to structure it something like 50/50 cash and stock and would need to offer close to €80, they’d strip out Kerry then also. Biggest thing stopping it is monopoly laws etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Mywifetoldme


    I'm sure we would all prefer the share price to be €96 instead of €66.10.

    But most of us got these shares for a pittance.

    The last thing we need is a takeover and paying 33% capital gains tax.

    Instead of buybacks, double the dividend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    I see in the Irish times that top Kerry plc management including CEO took 18% pay cuts in 2025 for not reaching projected targets... maybe the company should impose a larger pay cut percentage going forwards to improve management.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    dont sell don't even look at them, I wouldn't even know what there at only by reading this tread. we had good years with Kerry, yes they have been hammered in recent years but for the last 30 years before that, we only saw them go one way and that was up, so a big shock to the system, when they start going down, we most of us if the truth was told haven't a clue about the stock market and world markets and all that carry on, I certainly don't loose any sleep over what the stock market is doing because I have to get up for work every morning like I have done every morning for the last 40 years. Sit tight, don't panic and the tide might turn again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭ftm2023


    I remember back around 2006/07 Kerry shares peaked around €23.50… it was big money at the time. By 1/1/09 their share price had dropped down to €13.10…… the funny thing is, the shareholders have been here before with bad share price drops but the thing is that people have forgotten about it over the passage of time

    That being said, I sold all my Kerry Group shares in 2017 for €76.10, I sold all my Co-op shares in 2021 for €570/share. I own 6 houses now, if I had held on to the shares and sold them today, by the time I’d have the CGT paid I’d only have the price of 1 house. Kerry’s share price drop only tells half the story. Money has become utterly worthless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭Jizique


    €5m for 2025 v €6m in 2024, basic pay was €1.379m which will climb 3% in 2026; the mgmt got 60% of the LTIP targets, but if you exclude the BS 20% for sustainability which they fully achieved, they were only at 40% out of the remaining 80%.

    CFO got €2.88m down from €3.53m.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Irish Times Business Podcast did an interview with Edmond this week if anyone fancies a listen

    https://www.irishtimes.com/podcasts/inside-business/kerry-group-ceo-on-the-impact-of-middle-east-conflict-ai-and-drive-to-keep-bread-fresher-for-longer/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭Jizique




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Wasn't there myself...but heard it was upbeat with confidence for the future......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭Jizique




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭ftm2023


    I’m after seeing the best bit of news all year about Kerry in today’s Irish Farmers Journal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    Is it that their changing their name? Can't wait to get that word " Kerry "off my milk lorry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭ftm2023


    I was actually referring to the defector / former director named and shamed in the paper today.


    Back when Mundy was chairman, I got the minutes of every single board meeting. I’d sit down and read them myself. Every meeting, every page, every last bit of it.


    So I have come to my own humble opinion on what some of these former directors were like. 


    I’m only speculating for this part but I’d be thinking myself the MDPO wouldn’t take in that same fella and that’s why he’s not with them 


    I don’t think there’ll be many people in bed tonight staring at the ceiling worried about that Titan of the industry having left us 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    who be dhat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭ftm2023


    Great article by LRK in the IFJ

    I’d be very concerned by the actions of Jim McInerny

    In my opinion Jim only ever reached the advisory committee and Kerry Co-op board solely on parish politics—trading on local goodwill from playing hurling 30 years ago.

    I am of the belief that Jim lacks business acumen; it would be my guess that he was put on the Kinisla board strictly to keep him from pissing into the tent from the outside. What I’ve heard at ground level and this article further strengthens my understanding that he is now standing inside the tent, pissing all over it anyway.

    Only 25 people attended the meeting. Ten belonged to the MDPO travelling showband, and two were Kinisla directors (McInerny and one other). The remaining 13 consisted of nine milk suppliers and four of their family members.

    Ultimately, we are looking at just nine milk suppliers in the entire county of Clare considering a move. Assume only three are actually ready to walk.

    In my primary school class of 30, one did away with himself, one became a heroin addict, and another walks the town dressed as a woman. Every cross-section of society has its renegades; we cannot pander to them. McInerny capitulating to those three suppliers over accounts and contracts is an embarrassment.

    As the largest collective shareholders in Kerry Co-op—and by extension, Kinisla—my family is not represented by Jim McInerny. While representatives from four separate co-ops have personally contacted me looking to break their contracts and join Kinisla, Jim is busy pandering to a few guys with a milk pool under a million litres. It is embarrassing.

    My family invested in Kerry Co-op when Jim was still in his nappy, back when the global HQ was just a caravan in the Canon’s field in Listowel. We had the conviction to back a vision; Jim lacks the conviction to stand up to three suppliers. He’s the only Kinisla director that I do not want to see returned to the board when his term is up. 

    Furthermore, Jim has totally undermined his fellow directors in Kinisla, its CEO, Chairman James Tagney, and Vice Chairman Conor Creedon; he owes them all an apology. When you are a Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael TD and things aren’t going your way in the Dáil, you can’t just stand up and say "this has nothing to do with me."

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