Women's rights under attack

Goldengirl · 08-03-2026 07:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124296058#Comment_124296058

Maybe then she should practise that respect for other women so . And their opinions .

I object strongly to being told that I am far removed from women's issues because I think there are more serious threats to Irish women than the subject she considers most important here ,transgender.

@volchitsa why do you not accept other women's opinions as having validity ? Or indeed whydo you think everybody who disagrees with you is a man ?

anewme · 08-03-2026 09:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124296030#Comment_124296030

As a woman with a mother, sisters and nieces, colleagues and friends I feel more than qualified to speak about the threats and issues facing us (women) From my life's experiences. But of course you know better than my lived experiences and can tell me that Im removed from womens lives.

You've been told time and time again by women and men on this thread alone (based on their experiences of women in their lives) that they are not threatened in any way by trans people but yet you are ignoring this totally.

This thread is not honest, its nothing to do with womens rights or issues facing women. I engaged with this thread in good faith.

Mother Shaboobu · 08-03-2026 09:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124296775#Comment_124296775

Ah it is of course to do with issues facing women. That's a dishonest statement from you, anewme. I mean there is so much to support that it's in relation to issues facing women. There are some men here, ganging up on women and being amazingly vile - and such liars - stating what you're stating, yet they cannot support why they state it. Don't be like them.

anewme · 08-03-2026 09:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124296812#Comment_124296812

As a woman, honestly, It does not impact me, or anyone I know.

Mother Shaboobu · 08-03-2026 09:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124296846#Comment_124296846

Oh I know but other women disagree with pretending sex doesn't matter when it comes to prisons and sports. Also, pretending sex doesn't matter and that it's just about "gender" means that anyone can just declare that they're the opposite sex (because it DOES conflate sex with gender, even though they're not the same thing). It's not actually trans people - it's this gender declaration nonsense, which is obviously open to abuse. Look at the gross stuff outlined by volchitsa, regarding fetishisation of being a woman (and which Boggles just dismissed because it's inconvenient - doesn't show much caring about women on his part) - this is not typical of trans people, but it is the outcome of "anyone can be male or female" preposterousness.

volchitsa · 08-03-2026 10:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124296846#Comment_124296846

So if you've never had an abortion you'd be grand with a ban on abortions then too?

You have to need something for yourself to accept that other women may want or need it, right?

And women who have been raped have been refused same sex counselling in the UK (and quite likely here too, given that the self ID law goes a lot farther than UK law does, so that they're not even allowed to complain here), have been called bigots and said they needed to be re educated on their prejudices and so on.

You may feel you'll never need a same sex counsellor after a traumatic rape - and I sincerely hope you never need one at all - but surely you can see that just because you personally don't have such an issue, other women may do?

Even if you don't see it, you're not entitled to give away other women's rights. You can choose for yourself, but you can't impose your choices on other women.

anewme · 08-03-2026 10:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124297008#Comment_124297008

Thats exactly what you are doing- imposing your choices on others and not accepting valid experiences.

You accused me of being far removed from womens issues - because I don't agree with you. You are doing the same to others.

This is clearly a very personal crusade for you and so be it - will leave you to it.

It does come across as Graham Linehan-esque.

Mother Shaboobu · 09-03-2026 12:12AM

Ah but @anewme - what about the following?

"And women who have been raped have been refused same sex counselling in the UK (and quite likely here too, given that the self ID law goes a lot farther than UK law does, so that they're not even allowed to complain here), have been called bigots and said they needed to be re educated on their prejudices and so on.

You may feel you'll never need a same sex counsellor after a traumatic rape - and I sincerely hope you never need one at all - but surely you can see that just because you personally don't have such an issue, other women may do?"

The unfairness of situations like the above being ignored - and the lack of empathy regarding same, from people who think they're SO compassionate and always sticking up for the underdog, like posters and thankers here (who simply have no response to give, because there isn't any). Of course it's a concern for women. The evil of calling such women bigots, after such trauma, and spitefully saying that such women who support them don't care about women's concerns - it's no better than dismissive misogynists on the right, and it's especially shocking from women (slaves to a view - no matter where on the political spectrum - really do lose their humanity). They're truly appalling - and their cruelty beggars belief. It's no wonder the men who say such things are called misogynistic.

I don't think you're like the above - there isn't that vindictiveness about you - but it really doesn't seem right to dismiss a post describing the above situation as just a Linehan style rant.

Arseboxing · 09-03-2026 02:00AM

Lovely behaviour today by a group of male anti-trans thugs in Manchester as they try to assault new Green MP Hannah Spencer and indeed do assault the people accompanying her.

On International Women's Day.

Male thugs "protecting women's rights", apparently.

And just to be clear this is absolutely the true face of the anti-trans movement. It's a hate group, a terror group. Their aim is to spread fear and terror for anybody in the public eye about speaking up for trans people.

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2030693982846484777

Mother Shaboobu · 09-03-2026 02:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124297360#Comment_124297360

Yes they're utter scumbags.

aero2k · 18-03-2026 11:56AM

For anyone interested, videos of the "secret" WW4W conference on Ireland's Gender Recognition Act are easy to find on youtube. I've linked Catherine Monaghan's introduction below.

Various speakers pointed out the problem with the "tiny numbers" theory - it may be only a few men that want to enter women's spaces but that small number can have detrimental effects on large numbers of women. An example they didn't use was the three men standing on the podium of the women's 800m at the Rio Olympics. That meant three women who didn't get to stand there (and receive substantial sponsorship, funding, invitations to top races, appearance money etc in subsequent years), another three women who didn't get to run in an Olympic final, another three women who didn't get to run in semi-finals, etc. etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUugUt61gRU

18-03-2026 12:39PM

Theres a good reason the runners werent used as an example. They were women with a condition not trans women or "men in a dress" or "men taking womens spaces" or whatever other bull anti-trans spout.

Where does it stop? Does any biological advantage get banned? in which case take Michael Phelps medals off him, Ian Thorpes, any other athlete with a biologial advantage.

Do women have to fit the "pretty little lady" view to be accepted?

AMKC · 18-03-2026 01:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124255368#Comment_124255368

Thank you. Are you on ally if the LGBTQIA+ Community? If not I think you would be a great ally and I hope you consider becoming one. We need more open minded understanding people like you to join. Thank you again for your understanding and kindness for us Trans Females and the LGBTQIA+ Community too.

aero2k · 18-03-2026 09:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124321368#Comment_124321368

They were men.

19-03-2026 01:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124322851#Comment_124322851

Whats your basis for that?

aero2k · 19-03-2026 09:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124324211#Comment_124324211

It's not my basis, my comment was based on the facts. This has been well discussed in the men in women's sports threads. They were men with a DSD. The winner, Caster Semanya, has fathered at least one child since.

Every article I find refers to Semanya using she/ her, as does this one from the Daily Mail, but it also mentions the 46,XY karotype, the lack of a womb and ovaries, and the presence of undescended testicles.

The pictures paint 1000 words.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/lifestyle/article-13717971/Imane-Khelif-boxing-gender-row-Olympics-Caster-Semenya.html

volchitsa · 19-03-2026 10:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124324211#Comment_124324211

In Caster Semenya’s case the basis is that he took his case to CAS: their reports are published, so the ruling, whether for or against becomes available to read. And part of the evidence made available was the medical test that found that he had XY chromosomes and functional, albeit undescended, testicles.

Goldengirl · 19-03-2026 10:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124321454#Comment_124321454

I am of course an ally , but I can be of support without joining or signing up to any group. I am just an average Irish woman and am reflecting my 60 plus years experience of being so !

All the people I know and have worked with feel much the same as I do and would not support the type of witch-hunt that is being proposed by some here .

Ireland is not the UK or US and trying to import their rhetoric , BS and schtick over here is not going to happen.

AMKC · 19-03-2026 11:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124325720#Comment_124325720

Thank you. That is brilliant to hear.

Yes true you can indeed be.

Only 60+ years young so.

Thats brilliant and good to hear.

Yes thankfully we are not.

I hope your right.

I hope it never happens here and when the US and the UK get decent Governments again I hope hope they go back to being more understanding and open minded countries too but I think it will take time for all the hate built up sadly in them countries to die.

aero2k · 19-03-2026 11:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124325720#Comment_124325720

A genuine question: can you elaborate on the witch hunt you are referring to? I have never seen or heard anyone with gender critical views proposing any such thing. I have heard of gender critical people being hounded out of jobs - that's a witch hunt of sorts.

Goldengirl · 20-03-2026 12:14AM

The ranting above by two posters about women who they say have been refused same sex counselling after rape likely in Ireland because it has happened elsewhere , no proof just conjecture and extrapolation and a complete slating as cruel and misogynistic of any poster male or female that does not agree that this statement is not BS .

Yes that's a witch-hunt and I have no time or respect for that argument .

I have accepted some have strong views on the subject but the alternate view is not being given any validity here .

As far as people who are... what the hell is.... gender critical ? being witch hunted from jobs ? Really ? Where?

aero2k · 20-03-2026 10:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124325912#Comment_124325912

Sorry, if you had quoted my post I'd have seen your reply sooner.

I don't really like "gender critical" - as I understand it the term refers to people who believe there are two sexes and that's a biological fact, with implications that follow from that.

Maya Forstater and Carole Hooven would be just two people hounded out of jobs for publicly stating their belief in biology - Hooven has a PhD in evolutionary biology and was working at Harvard at the time, and her stated opinions were consistent with her academic discipline. It's worth watching some of her talks on YouTube- she tends to get emotional talking about it. It obviously affected her deeply.

Former Former Former · 20-03-2026 10:24AM

Call me old-fashioned but I'm at least open to the possibility that someone born with a vagina might be a woman, but just to note;

the CAS case which prevented Caster Semanya from competing with other female athletes did not find that she was a man. It found that her natural testosterone levels gave her an advantage over other women, but it did not find that she was not a woman.
the CAS judgement was later found by the European Court of Human Rights to have infringed on Semanya's basic human rights.

Now, if you're the sort of person who gets their "news" from the Daily Mail, you'll dismiss things like facts and human rights as liberal wokeism and you'll carry on regardless. Fair enough.

But going back to the original point about whether any of this impacts on the daily lives of women, the fact that the results of a race that happened ten years ago, with medals won by three women from Africa, is being held up as evidence of how this is an urgent crisis that must be tackled to protect Irish women, well, that says it all.

This is hatred of people who are different. Dress it up however you want, that's what it is.

20-03-2026 10:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124325488#Comment_124325488

Do you perhaps think that the "men in womens sport" thread may just be a little bias?? Again theres a reason every article says she. You can cherry pick the male parts but why ignore the female, such as the vagina.

She also has not fathered children cause she does not produce sperm.

Argue she has an advantage due to her testoserone levels, fair enough, but dont try and cherry pick "facts" and present them as truth to push an adgenda.

Mother Shaboobu · 20-03-2026 11:52AM

Nobody's "ranting" just because of people not liking what they say.

And obviously nobody is saying women should fit the "pretty little lady" stereotype (again with the sheer dishonesty). Women and girls just shouldn't have to take part in strength sports and contact sports with people who are male. How this is hatred is beyond me - but 'tis grand and easy for men to throw out such odious claims.

Those who have a difference of sexual development however - that's more ambiguous for sure.

aero2k · 20-03-2026 12:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124326391#Comment_124326391

No, the thread title is accurate. Nobody that I'm aware of has anything against people calling themselves what they want or presenting as they please. Many do have a problem with men being in places where they don't belong. Every article says "she" out of political correctness, because they don't know any better or because the writers chose to ignore that which they know together true.

The fathering of children was something I read on here - as I can't find an independent source I'll accept the correction.

As to your last paragraph I included all the facts that were relevant to a man winning the gold medal in a women's Olympic race. @volchitsa pointed out above that Semanya's CAS case proved he's a man with a DSD.

Former Former Former · 20-03-2026 01:55PM

The CAS judgement explicitly said Semanya is a woman with DSD. Whatever people are reading on their far-right Facebook groups that says otherwise is wrong, as is relying on other extreme, unsupported opinions of other posters just because they have the same opinion as you.

The IAAF, backed by CAS, were willing to let her continue to compete against other women if she took medication to suppress her testosterone levels.

it's all here;

SEMENYA v. SWITZERLAND

Now, unless the anti-different-people posters here now agree that a man can become a woman through medication, I'm not sure how you square that particular circle.

20-03-2026 02:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124326662#Comment_124326662

Your point about article writers is pure conjecture and has no basis in truth.

You're one again throwing out that 'facts' terms where it doesnt apply. As others have pointed out the ruling from CAS didnt find she was a man.

circadian · 20-03-2026 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124325488#Comment_124325488

"The winner, Caster Semanya, has fathered at least one child since." This is completely untrue and not possible. They have 2 children together, from a donor and carried by her wife via artificial insemination.

That particular disorder, while rare, it appears to be in 1 in 5,000 of the global population. Just, purely for comparison, albinism is somewhere between 1 in 15,000 and 20,000 of the global population. Achondroplasia, the most common type of Dwarfism is 1 in 27,000 of the population. So while 5αr2d is a rare condition, it is firstly one of many developmental sex disorders and secondly, in the grand scheme of things, not that rare when compared with more visible rare conditions that most people have encountered in their lives. The reality is, these types of sex disorders are more common than most people realise and it's only when it comes to light in terms of sports or something else that is public that the pearl clutching starts.

The pictures are possibly out of context and 100% intentionally used to evoke an emotional response rather than provide any factual evidence of anything.

Rocket_GD · 20-03-2026 03:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124327170#Comment_124327170

The pictures are possibly out of context and 100% intentionally used to evoke an emotional response rather than provide any factual evidence of anything.

The bastion of truth that The Daily Mail is would never do something like that.

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