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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,467 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I thought I was seeing Stockholm. Good shout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    Ecclesia is Latin for 'church', from Classical Greek Ekklesia = (+/-) an assembly. It goes back to the 4th century when Latin replaced Greek as the main language (Rome, translation of bible to Latin, etc.) Church =Eglise (French) Iglesia (Spanish)



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    And the adjective: ecclesiastical…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Scrabbel


    Would this be Frances Bridgeman's wedding (nee McKenna)? Seems to fit the bill.

    https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=cima-3093460



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    No Scrabbel - that's her parents marriage.

    She married Bernard Bohan in 1909.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Scrabbel


    Ah, I got you. So that's what the annotation is for. I was wondering what the connection was to that Bohan family. Was that a common thing then, where a person got married in the same parish as they were baptised? Or just something a few priests did sporadically?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭55Gem


    It started as a result of the Ne Temere decree (1907/8) to ensure all catholic marriages were valid, in this case ensuring the person getting married had been baptised. Not all priests made a note on the baptism but it's fairly widespread and very handy.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Another one if ye don't mind.

    Can anyone make out the occupation of Henry Hunt on line 24 of this US census return?

    I know the first word but not the second.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ5H-KKQ?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

    ship.png

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Ship Corker? A few pages after, James Fargo employment is listed here, similar?

    Screenshot 2026-02-17 3.22.23 AM.png

    Lorrance Scottora, a few pages before:

    Screenshot 2026-02-17 3.30.40 AM.png

    Ai says about the early 1920's dock workers:

    Screenshot 2026-02-17 3.34.03 AM.png Screenshot 2026-02-17 3.36.06 AM.png


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Brilliant Boo!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    FWIW Caulking was a regular maintenance job on all wooden sailing vessels. It involves hammering ‘oakum’ (unpicked strands of rope with pitch/tar) into the seams between planks on the hull/decks to keep them watertight. As the ship’s timbers moved due to waves, the caulking was pushed out of position.

    We get the expression “The devil to pay!” from that activity. It derives from 18th-century nautical slang where "the devil" was the ship's longest seam along the keel, requiring difficult maintenance, or "paying" (caulking) with pitch. It was named the ‘devil’ because it is in such an awkward inaccessible position.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I should have known that one as I've had it before as an occupation but once I saw arker there was no unseeing it!🙂

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭sirpsycho


    Any ideas on this one please? (edit:woman's name by the way)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭gipi


    Cecily Carty?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭sirpsycho


    Dont see any records on that name - I did try that one myself also.

    Had a child in 1863 in Wexford so I presume married before that and to a Robert Webster.

    Going to flick through the Wexford marriages microfilm, maybe find it in that.

    Edit: Found this in the microfilm but it's partially blurred! Any way around this?

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    Edit: Fixed!

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    Seems like a Cecily Carty indeed. Can't find that name on https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

    Post edited by sirpsycho on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Please put in the link to the full page.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    @sirpsycho

    When looking for help with transcriptions you must provide a link to the source of the document and a description of what it is. Otherwise it's a lot harder for people to help you with your query.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭sirpsycho


    Here is the link to the people I was looking for:

    https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634137?locale=en#page/143/mode/1up

    It looks like a Cecily Carty but I run into a wall under that name :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭ath262


    One of the godparents on that 1863 baptism (also Wexford town) is an Ellen Carty - might be related to this Cecily



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    and a Michael Carty 3 entries below, marrying Bridget Kehoe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭sirpsycho


    Aside from NLI, newspapers and IG website, are there are other places that the deaths would be recorded? Cecily Carty driving me mad ha.

    I found some old Wexford Town burial records - link below - that I am going to flick through. Maybe find something in there. Might help others out also.

    https://wexfordcountyarchive.com/our-collections/digital-collections/municipal-burial-records-1881-1926/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭ath262


    Any death/burial would be as Cecily Webster, her married name - might be worth looking for her husband's death also.

    Are you sure the couple and their child stayed in Wexford ?

    Post edited by ath262 on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Have you tried alternate spellings of Cecily such as Cecilia/ Cecelia, Celia?

    The Irish Genealogy website can be fussy about spellings.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭Mick Tator




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    As this has moved on from handwriting, please let me know if you want to continue this discussion and @Hermy or I will split it.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    and some Carty's may be mistranslated as Cathy, I noticed one. Idk, maybe even shortened from McArthy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭sirpsycho


    Thanks all for the help so far. I'll keep plugging away looking for Cecily Carty/Webster. I've tried various spellings etc but nothing yet.

    I'm not sure if they stayed in Enniscorthy/Wexford or not - I know their son (struggling to find any other siblings) married in Dublin to a Skerries woman in 1896 and was living in Dublin City for a time. I was thinking their son moved for work and perhaps the parents stayed in Wexford.

    The husband Robert Webster is making it hard to track him down too. No birth record and only one possible death (1888 (42 yrs old) in Enniscorthy) but nothing concrete to link him to that death.

    I've gotten back to early 1800s with other relatives but these two (Cecily and Robert) are tricky.

    I won't muddy the handwriting thread with these two any longer - if ye are interested to see the outcome (or join on the hunt!) then feel free to split the discussion to a separate thread.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I wonder could someone figure out the job title next to the number 48 for John Sweeney in this 1950 US census return.

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    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6X59-BPYL?lang=en

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭cobham


    The extra word in box seems to be location of work if similar to next two with B'lyn = Brooklyn and NY = New York but no ideas otherwise what "Consolidate" means,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Rigger? (Works with cranes or hoists, lifting equipment)



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