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Waterford North Quays

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Biggus Brainus


    Given the lack of supply and the amount of substandard accommodation requiring upgrades across the board nationwide im sure there’ll be a good level of demand for new 1 bed units in a south facing waterfront setting overlooking a city projected to grow steadily over the next few decades.

    I’ve said whatever I felt needed to be said in my original post. No one advocates forcing people out of their homes. I simply want to see more supply and choice and higher standard apartments, and the option there for whoever wants that kind of thing . It’s not just for elderly people either. Single Professionals , Commuters to Dublin or Carlow or Kildare , People who might work overseas and want a base but outside Dublin , Investors , Parents of overseas Students etc etc. The planning application gives every indication that these units will be to a reasonably high standard. The Architects involved are reputable. the Developers were involved in Titanic Quarter. The current Regulations demand high quality of Construction. I fail to see the connection between a prominent Waterfront location in 2026 and units built to lower or non existent standards 20 yrs ago in side streets behind O Connell st.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭curmudgeonly


    I tried to downsize, 2 of us in a 4 bed ,large garden etc..

    But when I looked into the costs, it did not make sense !

    I would have spent all of the proceeds of the sale and would still have a lesser product than I have now.

    So with the crazy construction costs that are prevalent at the moment, it is not a runner unless you are moving from a leafy borough in south county dublin with the much higher house prices.

    I have a track record in the construction industry so even with my knowledge it was a dead duck financially.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Jerry Atrick


    I'll wait and see on the developer side of this. Have my doubts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭914


    I think your second part is more on point. Single and young people, but even at that I think most would pick a 2 bed apartment over a 1 bed.

    From the point of few, a family member is staying over, a friend is staying over, maybe they have the option to work from home and wouldn't want to workstation in either the living room or bedroom.

    I think given a choice most would opt for 2 bed over 1 bed.

    Just my view, I don't see or hear of s huge demand for 1 bed dwellings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Bards


    It will lead to a transient population and not a community ..people who buy /rent 1 bed apartments see it is an entry onto the housing ladder stay for 1 or 2 years and then move on. We need more 2 and 3 bed high quality apartments not more 1 bed apartments..the government have got it wrong again



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    This project died as being transformative when it was scaled back and basically just became a cluster of apartments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Bards


    And even the limited retail is also being scaled back now too..replaced with yet more apartments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Jerry Atrick


    It's lining itself up to be a shanty town and a social issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭914




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    SDZ so it cannot be appealed further on. Waste of time as council will most likely approve.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    That's of no consequence. The retail offering was so small as to be non existent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    OConnell St mk2 incoming ........

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    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Meatball.Martin


    Dunno how these little row of houses on Sion Row were not CPO'd during the planning for the NQ's. I thought that buying them & demolishing them would have made the design of the roads & surrounding area a lot smoother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    I agree. They are basically sandwiched in between a dual carriageway,trainline and will be overshadowed by a big apartment and hotel complex. I’d take the money and go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Bards


    North Quays Redesign Confirmed: 700 Single‑Bed Units Reserved for MAMIL Residents

    Retail Stays — But Only for Cycling‑Related Enterprises as Waterford Aims to Become Ireland’s Cycling Capital

    By Pilar Olof, Senior Correspondent

    WATERFORD — In a bold policy shift that has stunned developers and delighted (or alarmed) local cyclists, Waterford City & County Council has announced the finalised redesign of the North Quays residential blocks: 700 single‑bed units, all reserved exclusively for MAMILs — Middle‑Aged Men in Lycra.

    The change significantly expands the original plan (by doubling the number of apartments), which would have provided 350 residential units alongside commercial, hotel, and aparthotel development.

    Greenway Growth Drives the MAMIL Migration

    Officials explained that the decision follows a “dramatic rise” in Greenway usage and the behavioural predictability of the MAMIL demographic — which reportedly shows “strong attraction to long, uninterrupted cycling corridors.”

    This aligns with the city’s expanding active‑travel infrastructure, including:

    The 207m Sustainable Transport Bridge, due to open in Q2 2027

    The new Transport Hub, progressing through completion before final commissioning into 2027

    The Greenways connecting Waterford to Dungarvan and New Ross

    “We know how MAMILs behave,” a Council planner said.

    “They seek smooth surfaces, long gradients, and somewhere to talk loudly about gear ratios. Waterford is now perfectly suited.”

    Retail Retained — But Exclusively for Cycling‑Focused Businesses

    While the early redesign considered removing all retail for “flow efficiency,” the Council has now confirmed that retail will remain, but only for enterprises that directly support the growing cycling ecosystem.

    The new retail mix — replacing the general‑purpose shops originally included in the SDZ plan — will consist of over a dozen cycling‑dedicated businesses, including:

    A high‑end bike‑fit and aerodynamic testing lab

    A “Lycra Lifestyle” boutique

    A cadence‑themed coffee chain

    A premium inner‑tube and tyre wall showroom

    A MAMIL‑only barber offering “helmet‑compatible trims”

    A cold‑tub & recovery spa

    A bike‑nutrition dispensary specialising in gels, electrolytes, and heart‑rate‑friendly pastries

    Economic development officials claim this will help position Waterford as Ireland’s Cycling Capital, with the North Quays becoming the country’s first “Cycling‑Only Retail District.”

    Infrastructure Works Continue Unaffected

    Despite the radical repositioning of the SDZ, public infrastructure timelines remain unchanged. Works on the realigned Abbey Road and Dock Road continue toward their 2026 completion, while bridge finishing works — including lighting, parapets, and street furniture — are progressing through 2026.

    The Transport Hub, designed to integrate train, bus, taxi, cycling, and active‑travel modes, remains a key component of the MAMIL relocation strategy, as it enables seamless transitions between commuting, leisure cycling, and mid‑ride coffee.

    Local Reactions: Confusion, Amusement, and Concern Over Lycra Density

    Reactions across the city were immediate:

    “700 MAMILs in one place? That’s an entire peloton block.”

    “Is there enough coffee in Waterford for this?”

    “If they repaint the bridge in fluorescent yellow lycra, I’m moving to Kilkenny.”

    A cyclist interviewed on the Quay was more enthusiastic:

    “Honestly? This is the best urban‑planning decision since the invention of the bike lane.”

    Council Reassures Residents

    The Council insists the plan will enhance Waterford’s urban vibrancy:

    “This is the natural evolution of a sustainable city. Some cities have tech hubs. Some have financial districts. Waterford will have Lycra.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    @Bards “This is the natural evolution of a sustainable city. Some cities have tech hubs. Some have financial districts. Waterford will have Lycra.”

    A bit of a stretch isn't it! 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    That was a long scroll!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Bards


    Lol..Just like the stroll accross the new bridge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Deiseen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    I want nothing built there except a quality everything a hotel, office block and maybe a conference centre. After that, nothing! Nothing high, nothing big, nothing supposedly game changing (Jesus help us) I just want Swiss quality everywhere, down to the nuts and bolts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭decies


    I presume that’s April fools , speaking of Trump this war needs to end fast before we end up again in a post Covid inflation recession. It’s bad enough the downgrading that’s happened before we got started but anything more would be a complete disaster .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Bards


    Absolutely it was an April fools..just look at the name of the reporter lol...agree on the war..it should never have started



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,419 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    unfortunately this could get very very dodgy, inflation is/will occur, therefore central banks will wrongly react and yank up rates(again, this is not a money supply problem!), so get ready!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Meatball.Martin


    Has the potential to surpass the Recession of '08. If the war drags on than everything's gonna be hit. Only shred of comfort is that we are not heading into Autumn/Winter. Trump's such a loose canon that absolutely anything may happen going forward. He does not care about anything it seems apart from himself. Israel led him blindly by the hand into this conflict. The world should have known the direction the US had pivoted to when it appointed a Secretary of War. Greenland, Venezuela, Iran…. & Cuba on the horizon.

    From an Irish perspective if & when Trump turns his focus back on our Corporation Tax windfalls then the real fun will start. No amount of bowl's of shamrock will fill that gap. How would we manage to cool all those data centres without any energy? Our economy is now set up with an outward focus - exports, exports, exports. And for tourists we are becoming one of the most expensive countries in the world to visit.

    Mystic meg & a crystal ball could not predict whats down the line!



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,713 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    if only there were energy sources which almost every home could install which would reduce our reliance on oil 🙄
    We could have reduced the impact in Ireland when it comes to homes and transport and the benefits of doing so are wide….but we choose not to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,419 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    unfortunately a significant proportion of the population currently cant actually afford to install panels, and this may remain to be for a very long time, so the state needs to rapidly expand renewables on the wider grid, so the reality is, we re actually stuck with an over reliance on international fossil fuel markets, so…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Assume you mean heat pumps. What's the cost of retrofitting a home with a heat pump. Let's say €15,000 (Conservative figure). There's 1.8 million households in Ireland. Let's say 75% don't have heat pumps (conservative figure) then you are talking €20.3 BILLION to upgrade these homes. And that's only talking about the heat pumps not the added insulation and double/triple glazing that some houses will need.

    Then when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow, where is the energy for these heat pumps to come from? Please dear God do not say battery storage as you can add another three zeros to that figure I mentioned above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    What renewables can reduce our heating dependence on gas and oil in any meaningful way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,419 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    all of them, im also pro nuclear, but shur best of luck with that one in ireland, again, i wouldnt be worrying about it, we re gonna remain pretty much as is, so prepare for a future of instability, and that ll be that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭914


    Heat pumps with solar and batteries. Expensive for most homes.

    Heat pumps and you are on electricity only, solar panels to off set the running cost during day time hours, supply back to the grid also reduces electrical costs.

    If over the years the government had invested heavily in renewables then we would have significantly reduced the need for oil and gas.



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