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General Star Trek thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,260 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Oh no. That Chaotica stuff was and still is terrible.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 617 ✭✭✭eadrom


    oh, Doctor Chaotica!

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    I thought you typo'd "Chakotay" and was thinking, I don't remember any "Dr. Chakotay stuff" 🤔

    I wasn't a big fan of Chaotica, either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,137 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Recent interview with long time Ireland resident Diane Duane in the Dublin Inquirer, touches on her involvement with TNG novels and TV.

    https://www.dublininquirer.com/sixty-years-on-a-star-trek-writer-is-still-creating-new-worlds/?ref=dublin-news-newsletter

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    She was a staple at the old annual Octocon conventions in Dun Laoghaire back in the 90s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    I'm big into the Flash Gordon serials from the 30s, which is probably why I like those episodes



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    Tonight's episode is Duet.

    Will it be as good as Move Along Home? There's literally no way to know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Duet took me by surprise on a one of my DS9 rewatches. It is a far stronger story than what you would expect from a Season 1 episode…let alone a Season 1 Bottle episode that barely goes beyond the Security office.

    Fantastic writing and of course acting from Harris Yulin as Marritza. One of those episodes that are perfect to just listen to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,671 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's become one of if not my favourite episode of Star Trek.

    I used always think it was a later season episode such is the quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,260 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    This is very good. Not perfect but very good. I was in tears watching some of them together,

    Another one,

    Post edited by AMKC on

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,957 ✭✭✭Evade


    Can we not do AI slop?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Rawr


    So currently doing the rounds on my YouTube feeds are the usual Doomcock-esque characters declaring that Kurtzman-era Trek has essentially ended. Much of the commentary is based on this article:

    https://trekmovie.com/2026/03/03/for-the-first-time-in-over-a-decade-no-star-trek-tv-is-in-production-or-greenlit/

    While those YouTube talking heads might be dancing around the imagined funeral pyre of Kurtzman's Trek career, I will only believe it once it is reported as real. Kurtzman has been "on his way out" of Trek production for the guts of 5 years now if those commentors are to be believed.

    But the possibilty in itself is worth considering. With the possibility of Paramount buying WB, a lot of stuff might be on pause while they work out their finances, and if what TrekMovie are reporting is true…no new Trek is being made right now. Academy has wrapped for the Second season and SNW has finished entirely. If no 3rd Season of Academy is ordered, nor a new Trek show is made (like the rumored Star Trek: United with Federation President Archer) then…that's it for now. No Trek.

    Some might call it franchise fatigue, and that it would be time to give the show a rest. This was the case by the end of the Berman era…but this potential new pause in Trek does not feel the same like it did last time. I feel that the franchise isn't as much "fatigued", but instead "worn raw" with the various poor attempts to actually continue the Trek story. Discovery lasted far too damn long when it was clear that it wouldn't work. Picard took 3 seasons to figure out what it could do well with just one season. All while Kurtzman's pet project Section 31 hung around the franchise like a multi-million-dollor albatros.

    SNW and Lower Decks were good Trek, and deserved more resouces to keep going longer.

    I'm a bit of broken record in this, but I firmly believe that Kurtzman was the wrong steward for a renewed Trek universe, and he served as more of a blockade to successful Trek than a sponsor of it. Good Trek appered to be made in spite of him rather than thanks to him. I do hope hope that if Kurtzman and his produciton house actually lose their Trek licence, that a new showrunner of Trek is carefully chosen this time (and not on the basis of having worked with JJ on the 2009 film). With any luck there is still a chance for good Trek in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,671 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I don't agree that SNW should get the resources to go on longer. It looks very much like they have run out of ideas and the quality is way way down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,260 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Maybe but I still thought it was cool. The first video was better though.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,257 ✭✭✭Inviere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,353 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Better than the one where they're all gearing up for Netflix and chill with each other anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Marina Sirtis at 71. I still would.

    I'd put her in the "Someone Unusual you fancy" thread, but, there's nothing unusual about fancying her, even now.

    I could be her toy boy.. <looks away wistfully>



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Rawr


    In a similar boat. As soon as I saw the Sirtis-bot morph through the Helm console to hug TNG Worf-bot, I was done.

    I know you meant well with your post @AMKC so I don't mean to cast any negativity your way, but Gen AI doesn't just create these wierd uncanny valley video effects, it also actively steals the work of thousands of creators while burning through a shameful amount of water do to its work.

    I'm involved in the cartooning / illustration world and GenAI is an absolute cancer that is making it needlessly harder to get people to engage with creativity.

    We have the likes of Star Trek because creativity is something we once cherished. GenAI threatens to deminish this and I would kindly ask anyone who is tempted to consume the products of GenAI to think again before doing so. A couple of prompts costs more than you'd recon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,778 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    If you haven't subscribed and seen it, this is a good one

    Family Guy to Star Trek and Beyond with Seth MacFarlane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    I was just going to say the same, discovered this podcast (hosted by Jonathan Frakes and Brent Spiner) the week it started and have been listening since. Surprised it hasn't gotten more attention tbh

    Although they seem to have a policy of avoiding Trek talk which may put some people off

    On that note, Gates Mcfadden's podcast, Investigates, is an an interesting format and she has gotten some really intimate, fascinating conversations from lots of Trek stars.

    (Some may wish to avoid the episode with Nana Visitor, though. Although I was aware what had happened to her, I don't think she ever really discussed it publicly before this and it is really hard listening)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,260 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    If I were to guess I would say August sounds like when season 4 of SNW will drop,

    Exclusive: ‘Strange New Worlds’ EP Talks S4 Release Date, S5 Characters, And A Return To “Classic” Star Trek – TrekMovie.com https://share.google/KLz3pyFUkuYy0M06Y

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    “It’s not like every episode is a puppet episode… It’s a mix. We have a few genre reaches. We have some real classic episodes, some very, very classic episodes. We try some things that have not been tried in Star Trek before, but still very much at their core, feel like Star Trek.”

    It's a mix. I'm going to say it now: for fecks sake!

    With ten episodes there's not a lot of room for "genre reaches".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,671 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Those episodes were made before the criticism of season 4 when these writers clearly thought this wacky shte was amazing so I think interviews since are all hot air and this season will absolutely be all singing all dancing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,860 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Absolutely brilliant, sums up the KurtzmanTrek crud that's currently on our screens, give us back Trek!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,671 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Lads do yerselves a favour and get off YouTube ffs.

    Your lives will be better for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,452 ✭✭✭corkie


    I don't mind seeing AI Slop, because some can be good. And interests me on what some people put thoughts into generating with it. Is that suppose to be Wil Wheaton in red. Doesn't really look like him?

    An AI slop warning would be nice for people so they can chose not to play.

    I know the channel it is from is coded top right, if people looked close enough.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Something just occurred to me. How does Spock in SNW get idioms wrong? He has an eidetic so surely by now he would have memorised every common human idiom?

    Watching an episode of SNW just now and La'an said "We all know what absence does to the heart", and Spock replies "A body without a heart would be quite fatal".

    I sometime feel like the Spock on SNW is loosely based on Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory.

    Maybe it's meant to be endearing, but I personally don't find it so.



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