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Aer Lingus Fleet/ Routes Discussion Pt 2 (ALL possible routes included)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,012 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Anyone know if any College Classic operated from St Louis Airport?

    I don't thik they did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    Is there any word on the progress or roadmap of the Starlink install? Any word when we might see it on narrowbodies?

    Would be nice to confirm pricing or if it will actually be free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭VG31




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


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    The Iolar is next up for getting painted.

    I think the white with the green tail will look lovely on it. The proportions suit smaller airframes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    EDY is back on the Irish reg now, was around the back of the hangers this morning and she’s sitting there with the EI reg painted back on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭knockon


    I flex in her last Friday from SNN to BOS. I was surprised. I thought we would not see an XLR in SNN?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    First XLR out of SNN



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    I would suspect that the "no XLR in Shannon" is more of a long term planning thing.
    Durnig the "winter season" Aer Lingus will move aircraft around as required based on reduced fleet numbers because of annual maintainance. The LR and XLR are the same cabin config, so very easy to swop in/out if operational needs require it.

    Eg. my missus operated a flight last week that had been upguaged to a A330 from an A321NEO. Several pax were annoyed that row 14 was no longer an "extra legroom" seat. She was able to offer them a full row of 4 seats each as compensation. She tells me that the loads were sub 180 so believed it must have been based on available aircraft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭jwm121


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    Aer Lingus IndyCar installed at IND looking lovely, they've marketed their last few US additions quite well it would seem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Nibs05


    Is XLT out of service again ?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Nibs05


    Seems both XLX, XLT had hard landings and are being checked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Gary walsh 32


    Ei edy is back in service on the Berlin flight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Strike at BER yesterday so rescue flight to catch up on 332/3 and 336/7 not flown yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 irishAvflyer


    @Nibs054 hard landings on the 321 LR/XLR over the last week, seems to be a real horrid plane to try fly in wind, where have Airbus gone wrong

    opinion: seems whatever things they changed regarding the flight computers with the size of the engines and aircraft length, handling looks like a nightmare



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Larger engines, winglets, a change in the centre of gravity etc. makes it trickier to handle on landing compared to the previous generation.

    Other airlines have had hiccups, Wizz put their first XLR out of service very early on after a hard landing at Prague but it appears Aer Lingus have had particularly bad luck for a relatively small fleet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Not Aer Lingus, but BAs first plane with Starlink installed is back in service, and by the sounds of it Starlink is available for use.

    EI-EIN is still down in Bordeaux by the looks of it, but its looking like Starlink will be available on it once it's back in service (assuming AL follow the same approach as BA).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    That Wizz air incident was apparently on that captains first flight on one, so some allowance for that. It wasn't even windy.

    Other than that the only others I have seen reported are on EI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    If you are including the LR variant, Turkish have had a few tail scrapes. A BA A21N had some sort of issue landing at DUB a couple of days ago and only ferried back to LHR this evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    BA had one at Heathrow during caught on live feed, floated, bounced hard and did a go around. American had one in Hawaii in 2024 resulting in 6 injuries. Frontier and United both lost nose wheels during A321neo hard landings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    Neither BA, Turkish, frontier, AA (2024) frontier or United have any LR or XLRS. Just regular A321s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Astral Nav


    Remember there are 321Neos, 321LRs and 321XLRs. The XLRs have a considerable FBW/software/computer layout redesign and is quite different from the others even though it looks the same. Most operators are flying it with mandatory extra speed increments to help deal with it's landing issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Regular A321Neos, yes. Has the LR got markedly different characteristics?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    They're still NEO's and they all handle slightly differently to the previous generation so I think it's worth mentioning them. The XLR has its own unique handling quirks for sure, but the standard NEO and LR have clearly been through their fair share of similar incidents.

    Aer Lingus itself has seen EI-LRD (LR) spend months grounded following a tail strike in 2023 and EI-XLT (XLR) had only just returned to service after months of repairs for its own hard landing before apparently suffering another knock.

    So while the XLR might be more susceptible for additional reasons, the other A321N family members are also tricky on landing it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    The A321 has always been tricky to land, the risk of a tail strike

    As above the XLR has different FBW flare law rules. Only flown the XLR twice but the first landing was the heaviest I can recall on a A320 family aircraft, I have 700+ landings on A32x's this was the only one I thought we broke something.

    So if you fly a A320ceo with the legacy wing tip fences and then fly a A321XLR with the winglets its a very different experience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 KB77


    EI-EAV seems to be in paint a long time or is it just parked up after painting, it will be a month next Wednesday since it replaced ( DUZ ) in France



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭HTCOne


    Heavy C/D checks normally take around 6 weeks on an A330.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 louisgeo_5


    EIN is operating 107 this afternoon. That should be the first flight from EI with Starlink available.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 KB77


    just been looking at it and it seems to be taking a very southernly route to BOS



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