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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    The number of dead Iranians will certainly go up and up if the US and Israel launch another illegal attack on them.
    Many of the transport planes flying into place are said to contain small arms to arm factions in a post strike civil war.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    According to the Financial Times:

    But Israeli intelligence has concluded that even with the imminent arrival of the USS Gerald R Ford later this week, the US has military capacity to sustain just a four to five day intense aerial assault, or a week of lower-intensity strikes, an Israeli intelligence official told the FT.

    “Who wants this? Nobody wants this,” said Miller at the Carnegie Endowment. “We’re sleep walking towards a war, in search of a strategy.”

    But Trump has been emboldened by his success in Venezuela and Tehran’s muted response to moves his advisers also deemed risky, analysts say. They include his withdrawal from the nuclear pact with Iran in 2018, the US’s assassination of Revolutionary Guards commander Qassem Soleimani in 2020, and last year’s bombing of Iranian nuclear sites.On each occasion, Trump rolled the dice on Iran and felt vindicated, said Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran and US policy expert at the Carnegie Endowment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Very odd that an Israeli Intelligence source is briefing against American action.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think there's probably an acknowledgement in Israel that Trump through needing distractions is creating a crisis that will not deliver a win. I think this quote from the Financial Times piece I linked sums it up best.

    “He has put himself in a situation where unless he manages to extract a considerable concession from the Iranians to avoid a war he doesn’t want, he’s going to be forced into one,” said Miller. “This is a crisis of his own making.”

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Why? The whole point of an intelligence service is to find out the actual reality, not to sugarcoat it to a desired reality.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I would think releasing information which goes against what your own prime minister and American president are saying would be a very dangerous activity. Releasing intelligence reports in general would be illegal.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Ah, I see what you're getting at now. A bit of "yes minister" style leaking could be going on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    The Financial Times was quoting Israeli intelligence sources, not the Pentagon.

    Anyway there are so many private contractors involved in the US arms industry that it's impossible for interesting news not to leak out, like the fact that the new F-35 are being deployed with gym weights as forward ballast as the radar units aren't ready, which completely undermines the whole reason for their development.

    https://theaviationist.com/2026/02/12/reports-suggest-f-35s-delivered-without-radar/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭Enduro


    It doesn't. Radar is only part of what makes the F35 an effective weapons system. And switching on radar immediately makes it detectable. They can operate using external radar data feeds.

    It's not particularly unusal either

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    Circling back to the point of my post, what you call leaks will be amongst private contractors just common knowledge.

    The US just assumes it's the bestest as is, which is why Trump doesn't understand why Iran hasn't named a golf course after him yet.

    The real risk is actually a war without a strategy whereby resources are concentrated too close together. The Gulf War took months to organise before a shot was fired, yet more US troops died by accident than in combat.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    You mean in a post strike uprising of the population against the despotic regime, don't you?

    Or do you believe that the Islamic Republic is an exemplary method of governance?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Looks like Iran are going the WMD route. No option now but to attack.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    The optics of Kushner playing such a big role for the US are not good. The Kushners have been close to Netanyahu for decades. On top of his obvious bias he has no background suggesting expertise on Iran (or diplomacy). It reminds me of a friend who regarded university exams as an intelligence test and studying for them beforehand as cheating. Using this method, a four year course took him eight years.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Eh, no. Directly addressed the fake news in your post.

    Any internal conflict in Iran will be a populace rising up against despotic leaders. That you refuse to see that is one of your blind spots.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    If they had any sense the mullahs would offer Trump an appropriate bribe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    I agree with most of that although I’d wonder about what house ‘our house’ is there. Trump is a problem created by Americans that they must deal with.

    I believe that secular social democracy is the best form of government. We in Ireland are moving closer to that ideal while America under Trump is drifting away. Iran is nowhere close.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    What happens once the regime is toppled JohnDoe? Peace and picnics?

    History would suggest years of internecine fighting and a violent struggle to control oil wealth or other resources a la Guatemala Congo, Libya etc.

    Maybe that is your blind spot.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Here’s a basic breakdown:

    Iran is a highly diverse country, both ethnically and culturally. Persians make up approximately 61 percent of the population, while significant minority groups include Azerbaijanis (16 percent), Kurds (10 percent) and others, such as Lurs (6 percent), Arabs (2 percent), Baloch (2 percent) and Turkic groups (2 percent).

    Iran is predominantly Shia Muslim, making up about 90 percent of the population, while Sunni Muslims and other Muslim sects account for roughly 9 percent. The remaining 1 percent includes roughly 300,000 Baha’i, 300,000 Christians, 35,000 Zoroastrians, 20,000 Jews, and 10,000 Sabean Mandeans according to the Minority Rights Group.

    The other questions I’d prefer to leave to somebody who knows something about the place. We are all aware of the Kurds and their distinct identity from their struggles in Iraq, Syria and Turkey. The Kurdish parties in Iran have recently agreed to work together for reform. The Azeris are supported by their kin across the border in Azerbaijan. There is a fair bit of mixing too. The Supreme Leader’s father was ethnically Azeri while his mother was Persian. Iran isn’t like Russia east of the Urals. Its many different ethnicities have lived together for centuries and there is a shared Iranian identity.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    A friend married to an Iranian made the very interesting observation to me back in the early 90s that even when the mullahs came to power they actually expanded state sponsored family planning and sexual education while we still had Magdellan laundries, the x case, and divorce was still illegal.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    No context

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Wearing a shirt that says Palestine action lands you in jail in the UK.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/16/arrested-retirees-vindicated-by-ruling-against-palestine-action-proscription

    There's tons of modern day iran videos where women are not wearing headscarfves.

    Iran has changed. Pezeshkian included, they seem to want to be part of the West and have little desire for war despite the fact Israel has nuclear weapons, they still don't want nuclear weapons. A lot has happened in the past 25 years.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭meepins


    A typically insane amount of jewish projection. If you want to know what crimes they're doing just look at what they accuse you of.

    Yes Iranians want to live normal, peaceful, prosperous lives but they can't because the evil empire has put sanctions on them and various other kinds of economic terrorism by their own admission. That alongside working with terrorist groups within Iran itself to carry out atrocities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    In Trump's SOTU speech he once again stated he wants Iran to say they won't build nuclear weapons. Earlier yesterday Iran's foreign minister reiterated the decades long consistent message that they never will develop a nuclear missile.

    Maybe he is just deaf or something.

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Dutch government not happy with the Iranian's as a senior diplomats luggage was found to contain communication devices and starlink terminals which are illegal in the country after he refused to put his luggage through a scanner.

    Also in the US House Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs that took place yesterday. It featured National endowment for Democracy President Damon Wilson admitting sending Starlink deployments to Iran, which was quickly interrupted by Rep. Lois Frankel once she realised that he should not of admitted that.

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭meepins


    I understand now why the Iranians take such authoritarian measures and you should too when you have witnessed dangerous inbred genocidal psychopaths constantly running terrorist ops in their country and threatening to annihilate them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    ”measures”? is that an euphemism for eradication of 36000 of its own citizens in two weeks?

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