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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Why don't we? Because their next job is already lined up

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    No it's not that. They are all hired day to day. Come in Monday but you might not be needed on Wednesday. They are nomads. That was meant to be outlawed years ago. You work for a company directly as a proper employee you are moved from job to job as your directed not a new job . That way a contracter is given a 6 or 8 month job to build houses then the whole crew move on to the next job and then the next you've constant work. Half my family are in construction. They never hire a full time employee. Saves them a shitload in tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,116 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Why are people surprised when John is arrested for drug dealing, robbery, etc.

    When John has loads of money for cars, clothes, holidays, etc when he has no job or a well paying one.

    Cherry on top if he looks like a proper little gangster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,071 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    These kids that were trafficked for Epstein and taken from all over the world to his island, where did they all come from?

    Did they all have normal family life? If so, how were they able to be taken away in private jets to a remote island often on the other side of the world for days on end to be abused?

    Where they returned to families and said nothing?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I heard some solicitor being interviewed about it during a protest and saying that there are bodies buried on the island. It doesn't bear thinking. There are innumerable children being kidnapped every year (not only by paedophiles) that are never heard of again. Not everyone would be as "lucky" as the McCanns in keeping their case in the news.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    A lot from Eastern Europe. Some undoubtably from dodgy care homes or orphanages. Girls were trafficked by him with the promise of modelling careers, he or Maxwell would tell them they were scouting for Victoria's Secret.

    With Virginia Giuffre he promised to pay for her masseuse training. Unfortunately she was sexually abused from a young age and so she was more vulnerable. There were a lot of girls like her and also ones who had addiction problems, a lot of runaways.

    Girls who stayed with him for a while were eventually sent out to entice other girls to his house also.

    If you read VGs book it gives you a better idea of how it all operated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    This has me thinking of the information we take for granted, so after reading about the Garda case involving the UCD student and the circulation of images, I was always under the impression that nothing could really be hidden and that it would be a relatively simple job for the Garda to find the origin of an email or WhatsApp message, This turns out to be untrue and the main way they find the information is by hoping the perpertratior has left a few 'bread crumbs' that they can use to track them, but anyone really good will have their trail 'crumbe' free.

    So while we are told there is no such thing as privacy on the internet, that's not true at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Not true, a lot of it just cant be used as evidence in cases. The Graham Dwyer case showed that mobile data could be used to link the two phones but was ruled that Gardai didn't have cause to use it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    My point is more about how very complex it is to find someone who is determined to stay anonymous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Not necessarily, it's just a high bar to get a court order to access the data. Mobile companies keep all data on a rolling 3 month basis, things like fitbits track your location. My wife's doctorate was on data privacy and specifically detailed the legalities of the Dwyer case. She's now an assistant professor of data law in the Uk.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    If the Garda gets a court order to access the information, is it technically complex to access information from someone who has gone to great lengths to be anonymous and not left any 'crumbs' while sending an email or message?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Anois_


    Using your own internet connection or phone to send them you will be caught straight away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Of course, but I am talking about someone who had gone to great lengths to hide themselves; they are not using their own devices.

    Although if they are wearing a Fitbit device while anonymising themselves in various ways, maybe its possilbe to locate them through another device in the vicinity, such as a Fitbit or their cars electronci controles?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    It would take a high level of competency to not leave any crumbs. Say for example you bought a burner phone, set up a new email address and sent a message. It is possible to see what other phones were using the same cell tower at the same time so if you had your other phone or smart device with you it could technically be tracked. I know of a case where someone was questioned as the second hand phone they were using was used in the commision of a crime. They had to show proof of purchase as the IMEI of the handset was linked to a burner sim. There are many ways to track someone but getting something admissible is the hard part. In the Graham Dwyer case even though the data was eventually ruled inadmissible they were able to build a strong enough case against him because they knew from the data they had the right person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    That makes perfect sense and is extremely clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Some of the stuff I heard over the years would scare you back to the stone age. People were put on terrorist watch lists over typos, Dna being taken and stored for years for trivial reasons. I personally was sacked years ago for a post I made on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Sorry to hear that. I wasn’t that awful witch who lived on island by any chance? I’d forgotten about her, what was her username?
    She was pure poison and fooled so many people on here with her poor mouth. I also know she got someone on here fired for their point of view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Nah, Myself and several others were posting here about products that were in testing before being released. That was back in 2007.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    No. She was a nasty piece of work, butter wouldn't melt. Not that you'd notice it at first.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I know the person but how did she get someone fired, and for what?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    This has been really interesting all I was wondering about was how individuals anonymous themselves.

    Anyway, if this case is as it seems, and the Garda can't track the perpetrator, it would be nice to think that the girl gets all the choice internships, the sought-after mentor, the sought-after consultancy posts, while the perpetrator rots repeating there medical exams and ends up in whatever is considered hell in the medical world and there deed follow them for life like a little incbus on their sholder. In other words, the victim is rewarded.

    It's a sure bet that everyone in UCD and the medical community in Ireland knows who the perpetrator is.

    I would hate to be the mother of teens today its scary, and those sharing the post, what the hell is wrong with them?

    Post edited by littlefeet on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    She trawled through all their posts and figured out where they worked, then reported them to the company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    The man who killed his girlfriend's foetus had evidence of the crime on his phone but the Gardai couldn't access it for four years because he wouldn't tell them the pin to unlock it.

    Why didn't they ever get an expert in to open it for them? You can walk into any one of the multiple phone shops that do repairs in every city and town and they could do it for you easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    The law was only changed recently requiring a warrant to open the phone. If they use the guy on the High street any evidence would be useless as there would be no chain of custody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭aero2k


    It'll be like that episode of "Porridge" where McKay asked Fletch what the would-be escapees had done with the earth from the escape tunnel, and he replied "that was easy, we just dug another tunnel and buried the earth in that" 😀.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Why are teenagers so bad at skateboarding. Everytime I see groups of young lads gathered in city squares trying to do that flip and land trick, nobody has ever got it, not once. The only time I have seen it is on TV or Youtube.

    edit... it is called an ollie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Anois_


    It's actually quite difficult to do. Even just looking at that video proves how difficult it is. But like anything once you master it, it is easy to do from then on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Why are we afraid of spiders.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭blackvalley




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