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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Your putting your back and forth.

    Do you think during D4bres time at RTÉ largely speaking RTÉ provided a good / quality public service broadcaster? Do you think KB4 has do a good job in his role over the last 3 years?

    you also put forward the following

    senior figures in RTE who apparently (according to Tubridy) make up 70% of the current top ten earners.

    I see you use the word current and that is correct but when did tubridy say up to 70% of the top ten earners?

    During his time there they were certainly 50% of the top 10 earners before the scandal. The top 5 all earned over the DG fee during that time, and it seems that all junior executives were on the same wage as the DG, which I have point to before.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I think the quality was and is mixed but increasingly I watch less and less of all TV. I listen to less radio than I used to also. I'm not really in a position to judge.

    Then like everything you have to ask compared to what? I'm a strong supporter of public service broadcasting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Do you think I am not a strong supporter of Public Service Broadcasting? (Honest question).

    Do you agree with the following statement: -

    In general terms RTÉ preformed well if not excellently as a strong public service broadcaster (both on TV and Radio) during D4bres time in the role of DG and that she and her executive team may have made some governance mistakes but over all the quality between her tenure and that of her predecessors not much changed.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    It may be 'honest' but it's also irrelevant what I think about you.

    Putting a long statement to me for my approval is silly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It's important because you might get the wrong impression, if you believe that I don't support PSB.

    Anyway RTÉ cut funding to Children's content in 2016 by 50% in 2017 they cut it by 75%, they suggested that they were not cutting funding at all but that it was just moving to the independent sector. This is a core part of PSB, IMO, if I can have an opinion on that, based on the Facts.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I have no interest in whether you do or not.

    You can make whatever statements you want about 'children's content on RTE' without quoting my posts.

    Bye.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Sorry I was replying to you in the first line. and then a separate message following that. I'd moved on.

    Bye.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod @hoodie6029 and @Peter Dragon, other posters aren't the topic, some posts will be deleted but it's pointed warnings and bans from here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think it should remain open. I think its a great thread that proves much of what the OP and the original posters on this thread where saying about RTÉ over the course of the last decade. I will only post updates on RTÉ, as I have done over the last number of years. Perhaps I should just let it die?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Closing a thread isn't the answer to anything.

    People will still keep posting about the Dee Forbes era in RTE if they have an opinion on it and feel the desire to express themselves. If they don't then it will slowly fade away like a lot of other threads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The problem is that nothing has changed in RTÉ. D4bres is just the touchstone, her predecessors were the same and KB4 isn't making any real changes to content.

    RTÉ current view is that outside of governance RTÉ is (and was) an excellent Public Service Broadcaster and has a rich history. KB4 is continuing the same path as before, he is just crossing his T's and dotting his I's. Nothing has really changed in the last 3 years, and I suspect the next 4 won't see much change either.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    The whole broadcasting environment is changing all the time with un-social media and streaming services. It would have happened anyway but I trace the decline in standards back to the advent of 'reality TV'.

    Reality television 

    is a genre of television programming that documents purportedly unscripted real-life situations, often starring ordinary people rather than professional actors. Reality television emerged as a distinct genre in the early 1990s with shows such as The Real World then achieved prominence in the early 2000s with the success of the series SurvivorIdol, and Big Brother, all of which became global franchises.

    Reality television - Wikipedia

    People are being conned into a state of un-reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So we are now to believe that D4bre's problems were all down to the new reality of media, and that really she did the best she could and KB4 is largely in the same place, do the best he can.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Disagree that KB hasn't changed anything. RTE is withering away under his watch. Maybe that's not entirely a bad thing - a properly run publisher-broadcaster like Channel 4 would be great. But then a properly run traditional PSB would be great too - although probably a lot more expensive.

    Nobody outside of Montrose cares if the cameraman on Fair City is an RTE lifer or not.

    That said, withdrawing digital services that cost very little to run is a big mistake. Making RTE less and less relevant.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I terms of content. Certainly KB4 is changing the business / governance end of RTÉ but this makes little difference to the audience.

    Do we really care if Fair City is an independent production?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If the last few years have taught us anything it should be that governance is important.

    Whatever about the content being produced now, if costs aren't contained at RTE then content is going to suffer even more in future

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    'Trouble at mill'

    RTÉ staff who are members of the Siptu union have voted overwhelmingly to reject management’s transformation strategy that aimed to restore trust in the broadcaster and ensure its relevance.

    The trade union, which represents more than 600 of RTÉ’s 1,750 employees, balloted members asking if they were confident A New Direction, the 2025-2029 strategy for reshaping the organisation, will deliver a fit-for-purpose public service broadcaster for the future.

    RTÉ’s Siptu members vote overwhelmingly to reject management transformation plan – The Irish Times

    SIPTU members in RTE voted 89% to 11% to reject the RTE management's plan for transformation.

    'A New Direction' sounds more like 'you go your direction and we'll go ours'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    People who sat in an organization not fit for purpose and said nothing. rejects new direction.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Some might say it’s a protest vote at the treatment of Ryan Tubridy. Some might say had he been brought back into the fold this would have passed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Almost 90% of SIPTU members in RTE rejecting the current management's plan 'A New Direction' for 2025-29 doesn't bode well for Bakhurst & Co.

    Will Kevin be getting a call from the BBC?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Well Ryan Tubridy was sacked here and had (according to you) an illustrious stint in the UK so I guess anything is possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    But yet D4bres clearly had the backing of SITPU how did they react to her Strategy 2024?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I see Barry Cummins ended up on the News @ 1 as he is the missing persons excerpt, could they have found no one else.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://evoke.ie/2026/02/23/entertainment/dancing-with-the-stars-talent

    No way they can get an All Star version of the ground I assume that past winners.

    It's interest here's LarBar suggesting something on DWTS v Strictly

    So our budget would be the equivalent to either a quarter or a third of the UK budget, is what I'm told.

    That's interesting because BBC's annual revenue is 15 times that of RTÉ's!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,150 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Regarding governance and accountability has the Comptroller and Auditor general been given authority over RTe accounts yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Expunge


    I heard Marty Whelan this morning on Lyric FM giving a soapy T*t W*nk of an interview to Israeli citizen, one time member of the IDF and the man who once said:

    "I feel I’m a soldier with my rifle in my violin and bow."

    Acclaimed violinist, Maxim Vengerov, coming to the NCH for a concert.

    Was he asked about the situation in Gaza or the Occupied Territories? Nah.

    The protesting class never heard of him, even though he is one of the greatest musicians of his generation. So no push back or commentary that I can see - nothing. So, a free pass for M. Whelan and RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "Was he asked about the situation in Gaza or the Occupied Territories?" 

    Violinist not asked about violence, shocking.

    Whelan keeping on topic, good to see.

    If he ever gets Dee Forbes in studio hopefully he will ask her questions about her time as RTE DG rather than her favourite holiday destinations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Famous musician who served in the IDF not asked anything about the situation in the Middle East? Really?

    From the company boycotting the arts event known as the Eurovision Song Contest?

    Just push tickets for his gig in the NCH without even asking him for some sort of observation?

    You're happy enough with that?

    You realise if your idol, Tubridy, did this he'd be swinging naked from a tree by now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Every Israeli has to serve in the IDF.

    People don't want to hear about that shíte on a music programme. Same as they don't want to hear somebody waffling about their violin on a current affairs programme

    RTE were so eager to drop Eurovision because it saves them a load of cash

    Would you have been happy for every single Irish person interviewed in the foreign media in the 80s/90s to have been asked about the IRA, no matter what the topic of the interview?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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