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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    There are countless areas where Newsom would be an improvement on Trump, support for Europe included. It would be an unquestionable improvement - maybe even an improvement over Biden in some regards. I am also more than happy to give Newsom credit where it's due, such as pushing through the counter gerrymander to combat the Republicans' shameless, anti-democratic power grab in Texas.

    However, he also seems to me a deeply opportunistic politican with little in the way of a core, coherent ideology that he's willing to follow through on. His publicity stunts and Trump trolling often seem like shallow performance to me.

    There's a good op-ed piece in The Guardian breaking down many of his broken promises and flip flops over the years: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/10/gavin-newsom-presidential-candidate-democrats

    I think the main priority in the US at the moment should be to start fighting back against the insane redistribution of wealth and to start making life legitimately better for the 99%, while also starting to dismantle the power structures that have allowed the ultra-wealthy and corporations to gain such undue influence over US political and everyday life. Sadly, Newsom doesn't seem like that sort to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Can recall Epstein saying he could not be kicked out by Trump as he was never a member of Mar a Lago club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,546 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "People are sick of that and don't want race or sexuality to be thrown at them as a reason."

    I never said she should be hired because she was a woman!?

    I said being a woman was one of the reasons she didn't get the job. There's a difference..

    Clearly people are still misogynistic, as your post demonstrates.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Rogan believes in lots of pseudoscientific nonsense. He's a believer in Graham Hancock who is hardly credible.. So Joe may be popular, he is also very gullible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock

    Here's him pushing aids disinformation 2 years back too… So he pushes a lot of shite that somebody told him and he liked the sound of it.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2024/02/15/joe-rogan-provides-a-platform-to-hivaids-denialists/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭randomcorkman


    Exactly. Great final paragraph in this article about him:

    One might chastise or sympathize with the anti-woke message that Rogan and his guests (e.g. Elon Musk) are frequently delivering on his various media platforms. But one would be hard pressed to listen to “The Joe Rogan Experience” or watch one of his stand-up routines and come away learning something significant about the United States or with a better understanding of American democracy. The Rogan experience is about normalizing thoughtlessness and creating a cult of followers that treasure stupidity as a form of entertainment.

    https://www.ctinsider.com/opinion/article/joe-rogan-ct-cult-19831244.php



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I have a feeling that his podcast has the potential to negatively impact him. He's had the likes of Steve Bannon and Ben Shapiro on, he doesn't tend to make any effort to challenge them and ultimately just bring them to a new audience. I've heard pretty centrist commentators who were somewhat critical of this so it's not even a far left issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think a lot stayed away because many wouldn't have accepted been humiliated by a husband the way she was. She was more "stand by your man" than "respect yourself".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭pah


    The best person for the job 😂 Can you say that about tRumps cabinet and wider administration? A laughable collection of alcoholics, animal abusers liars and idiots (Mostly Billionaires!!! and all Millionaires 🙄)

    Discrimination against white men??? You sound like a Stephen Miller fan. If it wasn't for DEI, minorities just would not get hired at the rate that they should be (where all persons are equally qualified, ESPECIALLY in America.

    I would love to see the day where companies have no DEI policy because everybody is seen as equal. That is not what this is, to claim otherwise is a lie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭somenergy


    Everything is crashing is it deliberate or stupid well done Americans



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trumps "Religious Liberty" panel divided on Israel. Carrie Prejean turns out to be a critic. Says Catholics do not embrace Zionism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    He's clearly not a MAGA shill. Don't be surprised if he doesn't endorse MAGA at the next election. He has a history of change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    This is the hypocrisy at the heart of American immigration. Many of Trump’s megadonors, eg Miriam Adelson, the Israeli American billionaire, are fine and dandy with employing thousands of undocumented workers in their hotels while he wins elections ranting about the same people. A similar problem exists in agriculture which is kept going by foreigners doing work few Americans would consider whose legality is largely ignored although Trump insists Canada must accept these illegally-produced items. If a few major employers of illegals saw significant prison time their numbers would plummet. That would be a far more effective way of tackling illegal immigration than killing American citizens in Minnesota.

    Post edited by Ardillaun on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Hillary didn't get in either. You're putting too much weight on the colour thing. Do you have a problem with a much higher percentage of black voters voting for a black (Obama) or mixed race candidate like Harris (identifies as black and Asian). She probably has European DNA too considering her father's Jamaican.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I've spent over a decade working in Universities. I've had to do various mandatory DEI courses and discriminating against white men was never mentioned. Not once.

    Modern conservatism seems to be nothing more than whipping oneself up into hissy fits based on imaginary and impossible scenarios.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    That's his right. I don't believe any of this crap. (Same with the UFO stuff). None are reasons to avoid his popular podcast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Those are excellent reasons to avoid his crappy podcast.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭innuendo141


    This thread seems like it has turned into the RoyalCelt show now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I never said it wasn't his right. However you've claimed "overall Joe would reference credible science on a range of subjects. ". The reality is he's incredibly unscientific and espouses views that the scientific community have called out as bs. This includes misinformation around AIDS, vaccines and general medical treatment. That's not remotely matching with the description you gave of him and he's chosen to believe some of the most harmful of pseudoscientific views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Absolute hogwash. Yes there are some guests that want to bang on about vaccines, or did, but the most popular episodes are with astrophysicists like Brian Cox, psychologists, motivational gurus like Wim Hof and David Goggins. Edward Snowden, Bob Lazar. Joe doesn’t talk, which is a good thing. But to say his audience wants to hear about vaccines is based on nothing but bias and ignorance of his guests and listeners.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    RBD isn't the one putting too much weight on the colour thing on this thread. The irony…

    And 'European DNA.' YIKES!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,877 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    There's a far simpler reason to avoid his podcast: it's propoganda.

    You're not wrong that he'll shift away from MAGA soon though: the billionaires financing him will find something else for him to shill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭LostinKildare


    Re the Seamus Culleton case, some posters here are misunderstanding the situation that arises when a person who has overstayed their visa marries a U.S. citizen and applies for a green card based on that marriage. The first step is to file for "adjustment of status" via an I-485 (look it up if you're interested). If you have married a US citizen and you entered the US legally ORIGINALLY (even if you overstayed your visa), you are granted leave to remain in the US and work in the US legally pending your green card interview.

    I know this because I went through this same process with my Irish husband who had overstayed his visa in NYC (I am American, also an Irish citizen now).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I've worked at a very senior level in regulatory and compliance for multinational Telco & snr manufacturing management.
    Never seen it in either industry and as the person who had compliance oversight in the Telco role?
    It would have had to cross my desk for a signature before being rolled out.

    I'd love to see some examples of this supposed anti-white discrimination or training that MAGA crusade about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,575 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Just to be clear, I want to distance myself from what @RoyalCelt is saying here re. discrimination against white men. It is a misunderstanding of what I said. And I am not sick "of all this DEI crap".

    What I was pointing out is that unfortunately the American voter seems more interested in who is a good candidate, not who will be the best president. So that means that the Democrats need to be clear about what they need to do to get their candidate elected - in essence pick a better candidate, not a better president. It would not be the best person for the job, but that's where they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Too many Americans want entertainment in their endless presidential selection system. Policy isn’t always at the top of the agenda. It’s become a gaudy spectacle like WWF. As I mentioned above, some of the weirder young, male, alt-right voters say they actually prefer Newsom over Vance because he looks more masculine and has a white wife! Our system is much better - lots of parties, any of which can come and go, and a leader who is never entirely secure. At no point can Martin go postal and do what he likes. Look at poor old Keir at the moment. Our leaders are not up on pedestals. The Americans made many mistakes in their effort to be different from Britain - combining head of government with head of state was the first one. At the time, I suppose it was hard to imagine an elected commoner doing the royal stuff. Also they gave the Senate way too much power. One legislative chamber is enough trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭crusd


    Reality doesnt intrude on some poeples acrobatics to judge ICE as always right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭bog master


    And in other news,

    FAA lifts El Paso airspace closure, citing ‘no threat,’ but there’s widespread confusion about what prompted it

    https://us.cnn.com/2026/02/11/us/faa-el-paso-texas-flight-restrictions-hnk

    I smell a false flag operation here, could this be justification for some military strikes in Mexico as Trump has threatened?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,546 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Bondi is before Congress at present....

    Rep. Lofgren: "The FBI continues to redact President Trump's name, even though he is mentioned thousands of times in these files."

    Bondi: "I find it interesting that she keeps going after President Trump, the greatest president in American history."

    Either she's a complete sycophant or a complete cultist.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,599 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    The estimate in job growth for 2025 was 584,000. The revised figure shows it was just 181,000. Over 400,000 less than the original estimate. 2025 was the worst year for U.S. job growth since 2003.

    So much winning.

    Screenshot 2026-02-11 at 16-36-37 New report shows 2025 was even worse for U.S. job market than we thought.png
    Post edited by charlie14 on


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