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Do you use AI?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,159 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I work in a heavily regulated industry and it’s causing more problems than it’s worth at the moment, I hate it and avoid as much as possible.

    Having said that, I got Copilot to write my team’s performance reviews last year and that saved me hours so there are exceptions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,922 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    That's a bit naive. The LLMs are improving all the time with new releases every few months. Many experts believe AGI is around the corner (1-5 years). When AI surpasses human intelligence, jobs will be lost. Some believe more jobs will be created to fill the void. Hard to call.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    As a country whose economy depends largely on foreign companies based on knowledge work, we are very exposed to employment collapse due to AI.

    I wonder if the government has a backup plan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭NiceFella


    With due respect, most of what you wrote has little to do with what I'm talking about with exception to your last two paragraphs.

    In that you say AI won't take the "actual work" in which you refer to physical labor. Thinking that is very naive. At this stage it isn't there yet, but given how many companies like Boston scientific are working on robotics, take a look how advanced they are. It will be like aviation every year they'll produce better more effective robotics.

    Once they have that nut cracked, all work from big industry will defunct and the owners of the AI model and systems will be in control.

    I know this is bleak outlook, but if you look at history of two competing groups it doesn't end well for one of the two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,922 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Do you really wonder that?

    They are the most reactive government of all time. They never plan. Even the Housing Plans had the targets removed!

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    No, I don't think they do. Unless people put pressure on them to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,922 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The key is to use AI Agents. You set the boundaries (knowledge sources) for what they can lookup and only feed them documents and sites that you specify. It worked for us.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I can tell you with cast-iron total certainty that they do not have a plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    I found the opposite when looking into a very obscure technical subject and was great learning with Gemini which also gives links to backup what it’s talking about so could go and read the papers myself

    One area however I hit a wall is new frameworks, since there is little to no documentation yet for the model to train, so you don’t get good results



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    See my other post, I actually concur that jobs will be lost.

    Many experts believe AGI is around the corner (1-5 years).

    Sure it is, together with viable nuclear fusion energy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,331 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    I have been watching what's happening with robotics, and as someone who works with intelligent beings, I am constantly surprised at how tech evangelists celebrate them being "advanced" when I'm yet to see a single one complete a seriously complex task in the real world. Every demonstration I've seen so far has been set up in an environment carefully curated for the purposes of the demonstration.

    I'm sure there will be more and more progress … but given that we're about 2000 years into the development of "computers" of one sort or another, and over 200 years since Monsieur Jacquard invented the first programmable computer to help weave his fabrics, and Penneys still needs cheap manual labour to feed the Irish fast-fashion habit, I don't see an end to those jobs any time soon.

    And that's the nub of it: robots and the IT/AI that drive them are expensive, so sure, yeah, rich Westerners will buy half a dozen different, expensive-to-run models to carry out a dozen different tasks and be delighted with the situation - same as they buy a clatter of kitchen gadgets when they could manage all of them with a decent knife. But the millions of non-rich people around the world will still employ polyvalent humans to do the same work at much lower cost, or buy the output of even poorer people who provide them with cheap crap to make them feel like they're doing okay in life.

    Now I do think that Ireland's economy (and Ireland's workforce) are at risk, but that's because of having too many eggs in that one basket. On my travels over the years, I've frequently come across regions that have collapsed spectacularly because they were too invested in one glorious industry, ignoring all signs that the world was changing around them. That's one of the reasons I opted out of living in Ireland, and every trip "home" reinforces my belief that I made the right decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I for one share Asimov's vision in which AI will first bring us the solution to our energy needs then enable us to space travel and hence allowing us a future, but we're not there yet, not even close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    It's hard to know what the future holds in that respect. You hear different timeframes bandied about and then some who say it'll never happen... A lot of the people in the public eye who talk about its imminent arrival have a financial interest in keeping the money spigot turned on in terms of investment.

    Also the definition of AGI seems pretty loose and changing.

    I'm not a sceptic or a believer really.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I guess the real test is how useful these systems are. And when it comes to coding, at least, frontier LLMs are very useful indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The way I look at it is, three years there was widespread amazement at an LLM that could provide any sort of coherent answer and now what was considered stunning then seems so basic now. So when I hear people say, "ah, AI can't do this or that" I think a more accurate response is to say: it can't do those things, yet.

    But, then again, we could be just seeing the era of early dramatic gains in capability and maybe each leap forward in the future will take more and more effort in brute force computing power or supporting infrastructure that mightn't be so easy to achieve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I just decided to ask Chat GPT about an upcoming interview that I'm a bit anxious about. To be fair, it's giving me incredible feedback with a few goofs thrown in for good measure. I'm astonished, honestly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    I understand why some people are sceptical and don’t trust it. I don’t use it for factual information.

    I use ChatGPT (enterprise grade) from time to time in my professional work to augment and enhance my skills; whether for writing, exploring ideas/approaches, or exploring certain proposed decisions in my free time before they are made. My skills in these areas were already strong, but using the LLM has augmented them.

    I use it very selectively. I don't use it to replace my professional judgement or experience. My work is high stress and carries a lot of responsibility, but AI helps me maximise time efficiency and reduces aspects of work pressure.

    It hasn’t led me wrong thus far. In fact, I’ve noticed I’m using AI somwhat less recently because the areas I mentioned above have improved with practice, experience, and time. That being said, I recognise this won’t be the case for everyone depending on how it’s used, some people will not develop skills in a similar way, and could even allow their skills to degrade over time, becoming over relient on AI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I don't actually know what's available to an individual in Ireland at the moment, in terms of the top of the line models out there?

    My workplace has enterprize level GPT, so we have access to to the Pro 5.2 version - which is fairly unbelievable at what it can do... But I only use it for work related stuff and AFAIK you can't purchase an individual subscription to it.

    But I'd be very curious to know what is the best available LLM out there for a regular person to purchase.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I use ChatGPT Plus at €23pm. Not work related. The Pro plan is around 200pm I think. Anyone can purchase it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Thanks.

    229 a month... Bit rich for my blood at the moment I think!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭GHendrix


    AI is just that a tool that is now here to stay. No different to the internet, google, calculators, a thesaurus etc. You don’t have to use it. But it helps with lots of things.

    In my spare time, I like to write. AI doesn’t write for me. That would completely defeat the purpose and enjoyment of writing.

    What it can do is help me to edit and polish things a bit. And I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The problem is that you are not "editing" and "polishing" yourself. Ultimately, you end up losing skills because you come to rely on something else to do that job for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Do you mind if I ask what for? That's more than what one would pay for a streaming service.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Mainly for coding (via Codex) but it also allows for greater usage limits, file storage etc. e.g. I ask it to track my food diaries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,331 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Maintaining some God awful undocumented brittle code at the moment. Any one who worked on it has gone.

    Using a couple of paid for AIs to make sense of it, reverse engineer it, document it, search all the internal random documents and MS Teams chats, figure out dependencies ...and link back to the code.

    Not just one large code base, but across multiple code based too.

    Yes, it's shockingly good. I know AI is good for generating stuff. Lots of tools can generate stuff, but maintenance of large code bases is hard.

    But here we are. An extremely useful tool for maintenance. You still have to understand what it's generating and take it with a grain of salt. But the amount of donkey work it removes is astounding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,835 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Layperson here with no experience of coding etc. However I've the full copilot package and have used it for comparing and contrasting different cars and models for prospective future purchase. I also used it to get forecasts for my retirement pensions using different parameters and building in factors for taxes, USC etc and I've just recently done a 20 day itinerary for Arizona round trip with accommodation and various places of interest plus attraction built in and all squared off into a Google maps link.

    I suppose everything I've done could have been done myself through Google searches however I like the fact that literally one sentence will return a detailed answer and from there I can do further research myself on what I am looking for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Google Gemini -.fast becoming my favourite search tool. It’s federated search style in the algorithm is top notch.

    I often wondered can my musical tastes be narrowed down and summarised. Why I dislike one band or even song v another. I listed the bands I found bland, boring, annoying.

    I got a detailed discussion of chord progression etc. I like certain styles and approaches. Thought my tastes were scattered. But are apparently are rigid and there are definite patterns, beyond the chord progressions.

    After some back and forth it figured out - I like Storytelling,non theatrical voices. Grit real vibe. Then the AI listed songs I “might like” one after another. It was great song, love that one. Bit amazed by how accurate it got.
    I kept the summary as a guide so now it will find “new” bands if the humour took me.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Gemini can also be useful for integrating with Google apps. I've used it to create calendar entries.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭MadeInKerry


    I use it a lot at work now and I like it.

    But im convinced now that 70% or more of youtube is AI at this point. There really needs to be a disclaimer on every article or video so that you can just filter out anything using AI to produce content, because it really is **** content.

    I was watching a documentary about the winter olympics yesterday and about 15 mins in I realized why I wasnt enjoying it. It was an AI voice. I only noticed that when it pronounced medal as Meeedal in an english accent at one point. All the photos and videos it showed of Athletes beginnings and training were AI and not of the actual athletes. I just switched it off and blocked the channel. I have so many channels blocked now because as soon as i notice AI content I block it.

    It has ruined the internet already tbh.



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