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Do you use AI?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    That's what the Luddites thought and said. In the end, they lost their jobs because they were too stubborn to retrain. Everyone else around them took advantage of the new spinning and weaving technologies and thousands of new jobs were created as more ordinary folk could afford cheaper fabric and cheaper clothes.

    'Twas the same in agriculture. Yerman Ferguson invented the tractor and drove all the peasants off the land … which they were mostly quite happy about because they could get jobs somewhere else. And whaddyaknow, here we are in the mid 2020s and it'd damn near impossible to find enough people to work in the fields, despite a supposed population overload.

    You only have to take a look at the list of professions on the "critical employment" list (e.g. post Brexit UK) to see that there's feck all risk of AI taking anyone's job if that job involves anything like real work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Yeah I think it's brilliant plus it allows me to cut out the so called professionals that would previously have been charging me for 3 days work when I can do it myself in a few hours!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    we’ve achieved it with Cursor (and a lot of internal additions and process improvements) in our department

    Copilot is nowhere near as good as above to be honest, nor has the ecosystem

    Which might explain why Microsoft stock got hammered so badly lately, they fallen behind in the race

    Biggest issue/bottleneck now is PR reviews, trying to speed that up too by at least addressing low hanging fruit, if I stop wasting time on social media will get there 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Most of it is slop.

    "…AI slop (also known simply as slop) is digital content made with generative artificial intelligence that is lacking in effort, quality, or meaning, and produced in high volume as clickbait to gain advantage in the attention economy..."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    The issue is you can't get the breast cancer/medical stuff without all the crap.

    The question is whether the trade off and opening pandora's box is worth it.

    I'm in favour of never stepping anywhere near the box.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    The issue is you can't get the breast cancer/medical stuff without all the crap.

    why not?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Because look at all the sh*t AI is doing already. Deepfake nudes, slop, loss of jobs and more.

    We can't be trusted to do only do medical/good research with it.

    Curiosity killed the cat.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    ah, i thought you meant there was a technical reason for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Isn't it also being trained on pre-existing information? These Large Language Models don't think or reason, if there are human errors in the training data then they can pump out errors the same as humans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    No Magic, I'm just wary of any technological "progress".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No but companies are pushing this slop for a reason. We could easily use it for meaningful purposes only. Instead, we're burning the planet for crappy images of cats with saxophones.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Exactly my point.

    We cannot be trusted.

    Never open Pandora's Box and Curiosity killed the cat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The box is open though. Today, it's slop but tomorrow it's going to be much more realistic and it will be used to push all kinds of malevolent agendas.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    The box should have never been f*cking touched with a 10 feet pole. Anyone who got near it should have been shot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I asked AI if the recent weather in Ireland is linked to climate disruption, and the answer was yes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Yes.

    I increasingly use it.

    I find it very good in certain prescribed scenarios - for example, getting a semi-useful outline for a script in a programming language with which I have no experience.

    The notion that it can take my job might well be down the line but IMO at the moment I don't think so.

    I find it useful in its own - so far somewhat flawed - right.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I like the AI music mashups. Like putting a 90s song in 1980s music, or earlier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I designed the graphics on my campervan on it, thats about it.

    Gave the images to a guy in the industry and he made them up for me.

    First picture below is AI imagery used as the base....2nd picture is my actual van

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    But there is emergent reasoning in the modern LLMs. And it can be very impressive.

    It's not just next token prediction anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    AI -Google Gemini in particular has a fantastic search function great for detailed research genealogy etc.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,336 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I haven't got round to using AI at all, but hearing great things about it.

    BTW, here's a photo of me on my last holiday.

    1000037544.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    on the flipside, i've found the gemini assisted search results in google so often hilariously wrong that i simply would not trust it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭NiceFella


    I disagree, The AI revolution is totally different to the industrial revolution because AI is replacing the last part of humans that is relevant to our success (our ability to think). If a machine can do everything better than us then there is little need for us to produce things anymore

    The need for a capitalist system would be defunct because producing things would be reduced to paying an electricity bill once these things advance sufficiently. No more need for humans who are just consumers.

    And this is why, this tech gives me the creeps. The owners aren't good people. Let's be honest here. When robotics and agentic modelling comes along way, I think we for the most part are toast.

    While the tech is very useful to people who use it for work. I think paying for the technology is one of the most unethical things a person can do. I think the only chance we have, is if AI fails on the capitalist stage. Massive burst bubble. Once the money and power is gone from those riding it, then it may have a chance to be a force for good going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,684 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I think use of AI is inevitable, and will be valuable in some circumstances. However it is most obviously being used at the moment to create sometimes harmless, but frequently sinister, videos that are changing understanding and perception of the world, mostly in a political sense.

    One result of this will be a generation of people who are insecure and don't know who to trust and what is real. In Europe we have become very used to being able to accept that what we are told in ads and other information is basically true. There are regulations that do not allow ads to tell us that something is safe, or will perform in a certain way, if it does not do that. We are used to food being at the very least harmless, and generally wholesome. Now we are dealing with ads telling us something will improve our health when there is absolutely no basis for that claim, and (non-critical) people have no way of knowing what is the truth. I take the easy route and just don't believe any ad on YouTube.

    More sinister is the use of AI to produce shorts and videos purporting to show (for example) London as a dangerous place, generally because of Muslim or other minority communities, or crime out of hand, as dealt with in this Evan Edinger video

    or then again, maybe EE is the AI and all that stuff is real? Who knows? I am inclined to believe EE, but accept that he also is putting forward an angle.

    I try to avoid the AI slop, but more or less accidentally just saw a short showing a renovation of a kitchen, one of the most badly done bits of AI in a while, possibly deliberately so? People pointing out poor AI content are still giving what the content creator wants - reaction. At the same time, people like and comment on these videos,this plague of morons and bots doing 'enthusiasm, prayers and kisses' are also doing what the content maker requires. Presumably some content creators have a 'factory' of bots following their videos around, commenting on them.

    There have long been stories about robots turning rogue and destroying humanity, the reality is that AI is not a physical, humanoid construction, but it is capable of far more destruction.

    The bottom line is that AI will be valuable for some purposes, but it needs regulation, if that is censorship, then so be it. AI content should at least be clearly indicated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I use AI, it's a tool just like any other tool we have in our jobs. If anyone is concerned about loosing their jobs to a tool, then I have some news for them: they are the biggest tool.

    The AI slop in arts, music games etc it's slop, no better no worse than the human created slop, like autotune singers and mumble rappers, actors that can't act and painters that sell white line on blue background for millions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    The AI revolution is totally different to the industrial revolution because AI is replacing the last part of humans that is relevant to our success (our ability to think). If a machine can do everything better than us then there is little need for us to produce things anymore

    The need for a capitalist system would be defunct because producing things would be reduced to paying an electricity bill once these things advance sufficiently. No more need for humans who are just consumers.

    We've always just been consumers, same as every other mammal on the planet. Our success as a species is primarily due to our ability to make a "hard copy" record of what we've done so that others can replicate and/or improve on what's worked. A way of bypassing the lottery-based evolution that other animals have to deal with.

    But for decades, we've been undermining that anyway. Parents spend a small fortune "fixing" their bug-eyed, buck-toothed, hunch-backed children so they've a better chance at reproducing (… oh, sorry, "being successful in life" … ) ; survival of the richest, not the fittest. Jobs are earned, lovers are wooed, stuff is sold all on the basis of pretence so AI isn't particularly revolutionary in that regard.

    What "AI" cannot do is actual work so the jobs it replaces will be almost entirely limited to the makey-up jobs that feed our consumerist society - jobs that are mostly limited to sitting in front of a computer analysing data or generating reams of code or text that gets shuffled from one office to another, but that doesn't meaningfully change anything about the real world.

    If the consumerist-capitalist economy collapses because of AI … well, there are plenty of us still able to wield a shovel or an axe, and we already go days, weeks, occasionally months without having to click, like or subscribe to some digital nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I wouldn't be so sure that jobs won't be lost to AI.

    In the company I work for a sizable proportion of the marketing, publishing and design part of the business were made redundant last year because the advances in AI had already made a big impact in how those jobs operated. Where you may have had in the past three people employed, now you could just have one and with a lot of processes automated.

    It's already happening, there's layoffs and job automation happening right now. Now, admittedly some of it may be hasty, but the systems are getting better all the time.

    Two years ago I would have scoffed at the idea of using AI for work, about eighteen months ago it started to be integrated into the systems we use, and now I use it constantly everyday.

    It also depends on what version of "AI" you are using. If a person's idea of it all is the free to use version of GPT or co-pilot, then there's a world of difference between those level of capabilities and the type of usefulness and performance you can get out of the top of the line models available now. And these will just be the regularly available models in a few months.

    Maybe we'll hit a wall and the rate of progress will slow, but, right now, it feels like there's step changes every few months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Jobs were, are and will be lost to AI, that's 100%. Some jobs will become redundant, some roles will be replaced and some will be needlessly removed just to be reinstated after, when it becomes apparent that … agents can't really do all.

    My point still stands, if anyone is replaced by a tool, they were a tool themselves. Both literally and figuratively.



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