General British politics discussion thread

paging andy burnham...

Burnham was kept outside the tent a couple weeks ago so he will have to wait for his time.

Pretty sure he was a member of Labour Friends of Israel when he was in Westminster before so I wouldn't expect he's going to pull that influence out by the ear, or anything like that.

I'd say what Labour are mostly waiting for now is a decision on whether to give Starmer the curly finger before or after the local elections in May. He reminds me of Theresa May in 2018 at this point. Everyone knows he's days are numbered, all that remains to be seen is when they decide to call him in.

I don't have much sympathy for Starmer or for those around him or the Parliamentary labour party itself as a whole. I think there's no doubt that they moved significantly to undermine Corbyn and while I didn't rate him as a leader, it was clear what was happening then that senior figures within the party wanted to have things their way more than the way of their membership outside of parliament.

And here they are, they might regret having locked Burnham out now if Starmer is to go anyway, I think Burnham would have done pretty well against Farage from a messaging perspective.

There's very few candidates who will likely be in government either throughout the remainder of this term, or the next who you'd feel have a better than average chance of being successful.

Just because the government failed to silence Palestinian support, doesn't mean they didn't try to do so.

The fact that they did this, during an active genocide and for whatever their reason was for doing so is what antagonized so many people about this topic.

It was a disgraceful act.

The idea that the govt has attempted to silence them at large is incredibly stupid.

Just because you claim this, doesn't make it so.

It was a highly unusual move for a government to proscribe a direct action group. That's a simple fact. They did this while the group was protesting an active genocide. That is also a fact. And they did it while a significant number of the governing party MP's are members of an organisation that supports the country carrying out the genocide. Another fact.

The referenced idea is very much, not, incredibly stupid.

The passing of government information is something serious in its own right. Farage (who for once I actually agree with) has called for his subsequent time as trade commissioner to be investigated.