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Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,650 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    https://www.water.ie/projects/local-projects/north-city-arterial-main-ncam

    Irish Waters map show work due both on James Larkin Road and Clontarf Road

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    James Larkin Road work happening next month but theres no details for it? https://www.water.ie/projects/local-projects/north-city-water-supply-s

    The lack of detail information about traffic diversions is astonishing Irish Water and the Councils should be informing the public directly not via ( self promoting ) politicians.

    Irish Water are having a meeting on Thursday, January 29, from 5pm to 8pm, in Scoil Eoin on Greendale Road.

    Irish Water seem to be depending on GMC Utilities to do the information with a Community Liason Officer on 0818 999 555

    Fingal planning reference F25A/0988E, DCC WEB5455/25

    Part of it is in Fingal and they havnt got a final decision they got more info required.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 215 ✭✭The Mathematician


    If only there was some sort of, I don't know, rapid transport system nearby that motorists could use to get into town.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    BTW does anyone know what was the outcome with the issue of cars crossing the cycle path around Marino being dangerous?

    Have the simple changes that were recommended here on boards and which were implemented prove sufficient or are they still going to go ahead with more radical changes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 167 ✭✭marvin42


    the IT posted this picture:

    617748215_1320804313411150_5983800390564712619_n.jpg

    ….while the actual place of the works looks like this:

    waterworks.jpg

    not exactly good journalism……



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Yeah, that's right, it'll eventually go from Clontarf all the way out the coast to Bayside. The only portion being done this year is from Watermill Road to Bayside. Clontarf to the wooden bridge will be done next year, but it's all going to take place in the green area, and won't affect the road at all.

    I, too, lament the inability of civil bodies to communicate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,650 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorials/2026/01/26/the-irish-times-view-on-works-in-north-dublin-disruption-on-the-double/

    A major water mains replacement on the Clontarf seafront will cause major delays - and new flood defences will follow

    Why are the Irish Times trying so hard to link this work in Raheny, Kilbarrack and Bayside to Clontarf?

    Getting insta ads from the Irish Times for the Olivia Kelly articles.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,650 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Irish Water says residents & business along route of upcoming North City Arterial Main waters works were invited to Information Meeting Thursday 29th,Scoil Eoin Greendale. Did any such people get a invite? (that didn't come from a politician).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    Was that the new water pipe which burst ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,899 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    They said it was an old one on the RTE News at 1 - they're digging in the park to fix it and I don't recall any works in Fairview park itself when the road was being done, but I didn't pass it too often



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    They dug up the path through the centre of the park for works shortly after the cycle path was finished.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,650 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    DCC motion to have a segregated route for cyclist when the flood barriers are in place on Clontarf promenade https://blog.karlstanley.ie/cycling-certainty-on-the-seafront/

    https://dublin.moderngov.co.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=141&MId=5736&Ver=4&ref=blog.karlstanley.ie

    That the North Central Area Committee calls on the Manager to ensure that when the coastal cycle route is closed, for reason of flood works or otherwise, a temporary, segregated cycle lane is installed on the adjacent coast road for the distance and duration of said closure. In the two weeks after the last NCAC meeting on 19 January 2025 the coastal cycle lane was blocked by concrete slabs for a number of days,reopened, closed again for a number of days and reopened again. No notice was give of any of these closures and no useful signage was in place alerting cyclists of the closure.

    Given Dublin City Council’s commitments to active travel and the high volume of commuters,school children and local residents who rely on this cycle route it is imperative that there is certainty that at all times a safe cycle route that is physically separated from traffic will be in place. Without this certainty the route will be unreliable and people will not use it, instead resorting to the motorised transport that creates the congestion we are trying to avoid and contributes to the climate change that causes extreme weather events in the first place.

    When the coastal cycle route was closed for flood alleviation works for four months in the summer of2025 no safe alternative cycle route was provided by Dublin City Council – instead children, families and commuters were funnelled, unprotected, into busy traffic. Dublin City Council must do better. And we know it can. Because during the same flood alleviation works last summer road space was taken and used to create a safe, segregated walkway for pedestrians that was physically separated from the road by a barrier. This shows it can be done – we just need to apply the same approach to children, families and commuters who use bikes and rely on this route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.independent.ie/county/dublin/cycle-lanes-to-be-installed-in-the-middle-of-dublins-amiens-street/a/157324266.html

    Yay my favourite thread has a reason to be resurrected. This looks a bit dodge but apart from the crossover at least a segregated path all the way to the quays now linking up with the new lane there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    As a driver and a cyclist - yay!

    To be perfectly honest, it's really not too bad cycling from the end of the existing cycle lane at Connolly, on to the south quays. There are three stops/sets of lights, from the Luas tracks to the quays, so it's nearly always possible to cross to the right hand side before crossing the river, when traffic is stopped.

    Driving, however, the lanes are completely misaligned. Bus lane, traffic lane 1, traffic lane 2, before the junction box at the eternal flame thingy changes to traffic lane 1, traffic lane 2, bus lane after the junction box. A huge number of drivers using traffic lane 1 assume they have right-of-way to drive "straight" on into change into traffic lane 2, without so much as indicating, let alone checking their blind spot. It's absolutely necessary to drive defensively there, and just assume the car to your side will 100% drive into your lane.

    Hopefully the addition of planters and a dedicated bike lane will mean they completely re-align that whole junction!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    From article linked above:

    The two-way bike lane, to be protected on either sides by planters, will take up the space currently occupied by a southbound traffic lane. The street’s three northbound lanes are unaffected by the change.

    Two-way bike lanes with planters on either sides in the space of a single traffic lane, sounds extremely tight! Of the three northbound traffic lanes, one should also taken for the cycle lanes north of the Luas tracks. I could see it being an issue northbound particularly, single file and a slow mover at the front of the line would limit cyclists getting through when they have the green light. Maybe that will be proposed later if demand exceeds the space provided by one traffic lane.

    As this thread has already been resurrected, I'll take the opportunity to mention DCC's proposal to make Vernon Ave more cycle-frendly and creating a civic space at it's junction with Clontarf Road, which is loosely relevant to this thread;



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