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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,036 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


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    The man killed by a US Border Patrol officer in Minneapolis was an ICU nurse, family says

    This was murder, a public execution. I've watched the videos from all the angles, he had been unarmed(of a legally held firearm) and was shot 4 times I believe by one federal agent, before some of the others also engaged in gunfire.

    He wasn't a threat to anyone. He tried to help a woman who was pepper sprayed, got pepper sprayed himself, beaten, disarmed and then immediately shot 10 or 11 times. The American government wasted no time in sending out Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem with a BS statement and called him a domestic terrorist.

    What chance have people got when this is what comes from the very top? We can see the videos, and yet Noem is trying to spin a completely different narrative. It makes you wonder what goes out of public viewing and behind closed doors.

    These agencies act with impunity, just as Trump himself does, they think they can do whatever they like. I hope there is justice for Alex Petti, Renee Good and any other victims, but I wouldn't have any faith in that happening unfortunately. The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension were blocked from investigating the crime scene by federal agents from the department of homeland security.

    And, before Trump leaves office, I can see him handing out pre-emptive pardons for many of his officials who should be facing criminal prosecution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭almostover


    The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,546 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Yes it is a form of victim blaming but.."

    Shouldn't we be talking about Venezuela?

    Anyway, I once read that in a sentence, any words before the word "but" don't mean jack sh1t. Seems applicable here

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    If anyone thinks this administration is going to accept responsibility for the murders of these two innocent people then they'd need to have a rethink.

    Trump and co have doubled down on defending their position and often go on the offensive rather that have a modicum of decency and say they've been wrong. They set the precedent with the big lie about inauguration numbers and it hasn't stopped.

    People have now just accepted this but rarely fight back. Where are the people contesting their lies? Has the media become so complicit that honest reporting is a thing of the past.

    Said it a week or two ago and I'll say it again. How can it get any worse, but week by week it does.

    Rip Good, Pretti and the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,221 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    You always only quote part of my posts. Always. Incapable of grasping the point. The poster can answer for themselves. I hope you get loads of thanks. Let me know when Greenland is invaded eh.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The cherry on the cake is that the midterms wouldn't even matter. Trump has loyalists in key positions throughout the federal government, which would enable Trump to essentially ignore legislation from Congress. Ball it up and toss it in the bin. Have the Democrats labelled an illegal organisation and its top members arrested if need be and clink champagne glasses as 1/3rd of America sits on their hands, apathetic and everyone else rages on Twitter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,234 ✭✭✭secman


    I posted that name for it in a response to the hypocrisy of it last week, Trump is unhinged and is like a magnet to attract every unhinged breathing lowlife walking this earth...… so fcking dad and depressing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭almostover


    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

    Anyone claiming that Pretti should have stayed at home would want to think very deeply about what's going on in the US currently. Turning a blind eye to ICE will only lead to one thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Don't you know that obviously only a Democrat government can be tyrannical.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭aero2k


    You can kind of understand why they do it, while being terrified of the consequences - it certainly gives an easier life in the short term. I had a short work visit to a country where my colleagues explained to me that people believed that God would decide when they were going to die, that this had inevitable consequences for how they drove and to be extra careful because of that. It's not an exact analogy but it's similar, and similarly dangerous.

    Now, we could speculate on what would happen if 70m + people who unquestioningly voted for Trump suddenly began to think for themselves, but I wouldn't know where to start😱.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    I'm not sure what the best course of action is for the people of Minnesota. It would be very understandable and frankly justified if the protests increased and became more violent.

    However that might be playing into Trumps hand and give him cover to enact martial law or something similar. Ultimately there needs to be more international pressure but as we saw with Gaza it is amazing what the world will tolerate to avoid risking their own interests.

    I'm probably guilty of that as well. I would love the Irish government to make a really strong response but if my livelihood depended on a US company I might be less gung ho.

    I think for now the midterms are the only hope to curb this administration. Trump is only part of the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭aero2k


    You're the one playing silly games here - @Cluedo Monopoly, by quoting your post, made it perfectly clear that he wasn't saying you said the thing you're now trying to say he said that you said. He was just stating an opinion related to the discussion in general - he used a separate paragraph. Posts don't need to be legal documents. He's now edited to clarify.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,255 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    NRA won't like that. Would be gas if this led to the right being against concealed carry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,546 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Okay.

    I only allowed to respond to posts which are addressed to me

    &

    I am only allowed quote people in full.

    I didn't know the rules were updated.

    Thanks for letting me know.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The only good news is that this regime is incompetent.

    Vidocq would be turning in his grave at the failure to get agent provocateurs to trigger the unrest necessary for grabbing more power.

    Also ICE deported a $100 million suspected jewellery thief. Unless this was an inside job , the shocking thing is that it was a crime against rich people and that can't be left unpunished can it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭aero2k


    If you read that literally, then ICE agents are criminals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    It could go the opposite way. Now that the first assassination has occurred of a citizen who was brandishing a phone as was his right to record the ICE actions it might bring the regular US population into line. Stop recording the facts, stay away.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭briany


     “I don’t **** care that they have weapons, they’re not here to hurt me. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the **** mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here, let the people in and take the mags away.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    And the feds still want to prosecute him. I think this was a blunder on their part. I doubt Trump would have wanted the deportation to take place without a trial given it harmed the wealthy elite of which he is part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Upon further review, I don't think this 'truth' is real, but am open to correction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Of I understand it the guy had a concealed weapon (legally).

    There is mo evidence he took it out and the video shoes and ICE agent taking the gun from behind the guys back.

    So if having a gun is irrelevant as it wasn't the reason he was set upon and as the gun was safely removed it had no relevance for shooting him.

    What is most worrying is that the government simply states a gun was involved and it is taken as a fact that it is an any way relevant.

    For those claiming that having a gun in the 1st place near ICE was an issue, remember that Good was shot because she had a car! So clearly anything and everything can be classed as a weapon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭briany


    "Concealed carry for me, not for thee."

    What would happen is they would advocate for social media checks when applying for a licence. If you are found to be even mildly critical of Trump in these checks or, as they might put it, a 'domestic terrorist', then no licence for you. But all the licences for MAGA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I think there's a legit reason to believe that he was gonna get shot weapon or not. Claim he resisted seems to be all the excuses they need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    Well those who felt the 2nd amendment was their protection from tyranny will be having a wake up call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    You know what to do, load your mobile phone and social media with loads of anti Trump stuff but just make sure your work route your trip through Ireland so you can be turned back on this side of the atlantic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    Some people:

    "He shouldn't have a gun! He should have stayed at home! He only has himself to blame!"

    The same people:

    "He did nothing wrong! He's an American hero! He had the right to defend himself! From my cold, dead hands!"

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    It would only have been a blunder if they had been communicating with other government agencies. Federal charges too. Largest jewel heist in US history.

    Simply put he went to ICE and they didn't check. No due process. Can't rule out corruption. In a normal country the minister responsible would be responsible and acting accordingly.

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported Flores in late December after he requested voluntary departure, prosecutors said in court filings.



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