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38kWh Ioniq

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Has anyone sold their 38 recently, just curious what type of money they are actually making.

    We are considering selling our one, possibly just to replace it with another one with lower mileage.

    Ours is a 2022, but we are currently doing 25k a year in it and it recently hit 100k. If we keep this up we'll run out of battery warranty by hitting 160k nearly 2 years before the 8 years is up.

    Ideally I wouldn't change it as it has been going great but it seems like the next few months is kind of the last chance to make the change for warranty reasons, as someone doing a more reasonable 10-15k a year would get the full warranty out of it.

    I don't think the car will spontaneously combust when the warranty is up, but it will certainly become much less valuable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    €12K is probably what you’d get for it to sell it privately. Better off to keep it and forget about the warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Orebro


    Has anyone had their 2020/2021 Ioniq 38Kwh serviced recently? It seems it's due a BMS software update detailed here: https://www.tsbsearch.com/Hyundai/24-01-034H - however I've come across on UK forums that this update has caused the charging port actuator to malfunction and needs to be replaced - just wondering if anyone else has encountered this. Mine is due for a service soon and I want to make sure they will cover the actuator replacement even though the car is out of warranty, since it's their software update causes the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I have a 2022 one and my BMS software was updated during the summer. Not sure if its the same update but it had no impact on the charging port actuator. I'd say talk to the dealer before hand with your concerns. Get them to confirm the port is working before the service. If its a case that your the actuator works before the update and doesn't after, I don't see how it wouldn't be covered.

    That seems like a relatively realistic number but even at that, without doing much looking there is a 2022 with 20k miles (30k KM) up north for €14.4k. Dropping 70k KM and gaining 2 years of warranty doesn't seem like awful value for €2.4K. It is a bit of faffing though! I would also need to sell our own Ioniq to fund the next one as I unfortunately do not have a spare €14k knocking about!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    They are generally trouble free long past warranty, so I wouldn't bother personally.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Car has let me down big time today.

    Car drove 50km on the motorway no problem reached Galway but before I made it to where I was going in Galway a "limited power" with a turtle shows up.

    I thought it was strange as I still had 20% battery left. But it was worse than I thought, it wasn't like regular turtle mode, I basically couldn't accelerate.

    I turned it off an on a few times and the same message comes back within a few seconds of driving.

    So currently waiting for breakdown to tow the car to the Galway Hyundai service place (who I've never used before, so I'm not a customer) and get them to have a look at it Monday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    6 hours later, tow truck finally came.

    He has to put the booster pack on it to put in neutral as the 12v died at some stage.

    Showed as 0% charge. I've a feeling I'm going to have a challenge on my hands convincing them I didn't just run out of battery (and maybe I did, but why was it showing 20% when it happened)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Good luck with it but expect not to be believed.

    First classic Ioniq I've heard this happen to (on here).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    By any chance were you in the car for those 6 hours using up heat etc? Using Just 4% per hour would bring you to zero.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    That sort of behaviour can indicate at least one cell weak in high voltage battery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Take a look at this Leaf.

    It goes from 37 percent to showing zero in about 3 kms.

    Shows the basic idea of very weak cells.

    The thing to remember here is that the car will die when the weakest cell runs out even if there's still plenty of energy in rest of pack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Hopefully it’s nothing too serious - if battery then again, hopefully it’s all covered under the warranty - an inconvenience yes, but not fatal financially let’s hope- do let us know how you get on - with only 100k on the clock you’d be very unlucky so you would



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Everything before the Ioniq 5 is a classic/original shape Ioniq.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Does anyone know the typical way a warranty issue like this gets resolved, like who do I contact etc.

    I have got minor warranty stuff done before via the crowd I typically use for service, but I could always drive there. Not sure what the process is if the car isn't moving



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I'd disagree, the 38 is flawed and has open battery recall, the 28 is the bulletproof OG Classic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭All in all


    If the car is still under warranty and with a Hyundai dealer they apply to Hyundai directly to approve warranty work.

    Any update on the issue?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I emailed Hyundai (info@hyundai.ie) yesterday asking them to advise on what the process is and in fairness they got back within a couple of hours.

    Basically they said the dealer would deal with it and they would contact me. I thought this would probably be the case, but I was bit anxious that I basically landed this thing on Connolly's door without any warning and I didnt know if that was the right procedure.

    Connolly's rang me yesterday evening saying they had heard from Hyundai (so maybe they wouldn't have called without the email to Hyundai) saying that they are going to stick it on charge overnight and investigate it tomorrow.

    I can see via the app it charged to 100% overnight. So I guess we'll see what today brings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,530 ✭✭✭obi604


    Hello. Is the 38 battery recall for all Ioniq 38's or just certain years etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭All in all


    It's the early 2020's as far as I know, you can check the VIN with dealer and they will know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,530 ✭✭✭obi604


    hello,sorry to hear about your issues. what year and month is your Ioniq?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Connolly's rang today to say the 12v battery is the problem. They said the HV battery was 0% when they got it. Will only book it in for further investigation (next week) when the 12v is changed. I either pay them for a battery (€180) or pay a diagnosis fee (€6x). Neither covered by warranty as 12v related

    Maybe the 12v is bad, but I'm not happy with that as an answer. I actually had a multimeter in the car and checked when I was stopped and it was measuring 12.5v. (and no usually funky 12v related issues).

    My complaint is if I did run out of HV battery, I had basically 0 warning, my soc was showing above 20% and I travelled probably less than a km between any indication that something was wrong and where I had to abandon.

    I was also driving for 40 minutes before it happened, was the battery top up system (whatever the EV equivalent of an alternator is) not providing enough volts for it to operate correctly even if the 12v wasn't holding charge

    Jan 2022, no recall as far as I know.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Sounds weird, I remember you replaced that 12v so should still be good, I know Hyundai updated the Kona for the HV battery to top up the 12v whenever required to minimise this issue, would have thought the Ioniq had that update too. Also does not explain 20% HV dropping to 0% like the garage said they received it at



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,506 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I have a phone that does the same thing. I'm assuming it's an ineffective BMS but my very expensive Samsung Galaxy will give me a 15% battery warning yet within minutes will click down to 1% and eventually wink out very quickly - even if not being used over those few minutes. It drives me crazy sometimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,781 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Here’s what AI says - might be of help to you OP:

    A Hyundai battery dropping from 20% to 0% rapidly usually indicates a failure in the 12-volt battery's ability to hold a charge, a faulty battery management system (BMS), or a parasitic drain. This issue is commonly reported in newer Hyundai models (like Ioniq 5/6, Tucson, and i20) and often requires a software update or battery replacement. Here are the specific faults and causes for this behavior:

    • 12V Battery Health (Most Common):The 12V battery is either failing or has reached the end of its life (typically 3–5 years). If the battery's capacity is severely reduced, it cannot hold a charge, causing voltage to drop suddenly.
    • Parasitic Drain: Electrical components (such as an aftermarket GPS tracker, or a malfunctioning telematics module/BlueLink) continue drawing power when the car is off, draining the battery.
    • Software Glitches/ECU Update: The Electronic Control Unit (ECU) or Battery Management System (BMS) may have a bug that fails to properly charge the 12V battery, especially in electric/hybrid vehicles.
    • ICCU Failure (EV/Hybrid Only): The Integrated Charging Control Unit (ICCU) may not be properly charging the 12V battery from the main high-voltage battery, often triggering the "Battery Discharge Warning".
    • Inadequate Driving Habit: Regular, short trips prevent the battery from fully recharging. 

    Recommended Actions:

    1. Check for "Battery Discharge Warning": This message indicates the 12V system is below 12.2–12.3 volts, often appearing when the engine is off.
    2. Software Patch: Ask a dealership to check for any ECU/BMS software updates, which can resolve bugs.
    3. Test Battery/Alternator: Have the 12V battery load-tested at a dealership or local auto parts store.
    4. Use the 12V Reset Switch: Many newer Hyundais have a "12V BATT RESET" button to the left of the steering wheel, allowing you to restart the car if the battery has died. 

    If you are experiencing this, are you noticing the issue after the car has been parked for several days, or does it happen immediately after turning it off?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    We need to move away from lead-acid to lithium batteries like Tesla and just eliminate this issue altogether



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    It will be interesting to see if a new battery solves the problem ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    This is not going to end well for the OP I reckon. The issue smells like a weak battery module. Hyundai won't do anything unless there is a BMS fault code for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Am going to get the car back and replace the 12v myself. It's booked to go into my own dealers to investigate this week. (hopefully I've no issue getting there)

    Yeah the 12V caused me some issues shortly after I bought it, so I changed it out. that was about 2 years ago. It's still under warranty from Halfords so I assume I'll get it replaced under warranty. This will be at least it's 3rd 12v battery on a 4 year old car, seems odd. The car is basically daily driven so its not like its being parked up for weeks/months on end.


    The thing I fear about this is it a thing that every couple of years the car is going to randomly start reporting 20% more battery than it actually has due to a bad 12v? It's pretty unnerving.

    Potential fun times ahead alright, when I get it back tomorrow I will start seeing if I can OBD scan to see cell voltages etc to see if I can see anything.



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