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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Rather a different situation. Firstly, it was one incident, whereas these ICE murders look like they're going to be coming thick and fast. Secondly, once the facts around the Kent State shootings became fully apparent, public opinion of the NG's actions was overwhelmingly negative. It was among the things that led to a general collapse in public support for the Vietnam war.

    If you'd had the same incident today, it would barely move the needle. MAGA pundits would be on Twitter within seconds to spread the usual FUD and disinformation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    If non UK TV cameras hadn't been there the UK would have got away with bloody Sunday.

    For the hardcore trumpers the recorded execution of unarmed fellow citizens does not seem to matter.

    It feels like there's no moral break left to stop the usa descending into a troubles like domestic war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭Patser


    Again they've no idea how to moderate their language or buy time. Within an hour of the incident, the DHS has set out its stall - all the bingo words in there. 'Illegal alien' 'defensive shots', 'Rioters'

    It's already being torn apart, analysis seems to show him being disarmed, there's been absolutely no time to investigate or correlate their story, but seeing the Govt lie so clearly, about an American death is just feeding into the tinderbox.

    The fact that he was a legal gun owner with permit, but that's being ignored as justification to shoot him is also starting to jump across the red/blue divide as other American gun owners are questioning it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    The video from the lady in pink is out too, it makes it crystal clear that there's no justification. They just murdered him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/iO4VD2q4W6


    alternate angle. “The pink lady video” looks like the guy got executed for defending a woman who ICE attacked. They are saying he was disarmed and then one agent discharged his gun by accident and another agent just started firing multiple shots into the victim in reaction. Horrible video. Blood hungry scum.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    Shooting from a heroic member of Temu SA Also Known As Douchbag Division



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭Billy Mays




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    America has a fascist government, and I don’t use the f word lightly.

    Between the executions of civilians, the brutal militarised crackdowns, the increased punishment of political opponents and dissenters, and the increasingly overt use of racism, lies and propaganda (even using AI to alter images of protesters)… if that doesn’t fit the ‘modern fascism’ tag, I don’t know what does.

    Kudos to the brave Minnesotans standing up against the brutal, purely political takeover of their city. That level of pushback and bravery needs to spread nationwide - especially in cities not being explicitly targeted for now - for things to start changing for the better. There’s a body count now, and I fear things are going to get much worse before they get any better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    For me, the turning point was January the 6th. It was the same for Vichy France scholar and fascism expert Robert O. Paxton.

    And yes, this will get a lot, lot worse before it gets better. If it gets better.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭nachouser


    I said it before, the US is Deadwood Season 4 right now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭Patser


    Yeah, he stepped in to separate out 2 women who were getting irritant spray. Got a face full of it himself, dragged to ground, hit in face by pistol a few times, and then shot dead within 10 seconds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    The very nasty bit is when people start shooting back & get a violent response. I think that's where it'll end up before long. The US is utterly armed to the teeth - very few, if any, comparisons. You've a ludicrously over armed police force / paramilitary services and very heavily armed citizens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭Dan Steely
    1 missile, 165 schoolgirls


    I never thought I would hate a public figure more than Putin or fear more than Ping.

    Oh to be alone in a locked room with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,806 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I'm amazed we haven't seen the usuals pop up defending the brave agent.

    Guess they are waiting for Trump/Leavitt to provide the script they need. They are helpless until Trump tells them what to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,192 ✭✭✭eire4


    No question Carney's speech was absolutely spot on at Davos. Ourselves and Canada will hopefully be able to grow closer together in all sphere's which makes sense for us all and start to disentangle ourselves from the Americans as much as possible which for both countries will take considerable time but its clearly the direction we need to be going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This is the shocking part. The MAGA fascists are now cheerleading for their armed militia executing protestors (US citizens) on the street. This was never anything to do with immigration - they want the US to become an authoritarian state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭omega man


    Victim was a nurse who worked with the VA. He had a concealed carry licence which I thought the republicans were all about. The federal authorities still saying he approached agents with a fire arm and intended to “massacre” them. Multiple video angles now 100% prove that line to be false. Nowhere to hide now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    They only care about their core beliefs and rights when it applies to them personally, not to people who disagree with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭doyle55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Trouble is the gun addicts are probably more pro Trump and ICE so intimidating and murdering the current protesters is ok. All I can say is imagine what the BS that would come from DHS if the victims were Latino or Black. If this sh%t show ever ends the goons in ICE should be

    investigated fully. I wonder how many are from groups like the Proud Boys and white supremacist groups.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    America is way way past truth and facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    They just lie as easily as they breathe. It's crazy. What happened is plain as day.

    "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

    ― George Orwell, 1984.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Where are all the 2nd Amendments stalwarts stepping in to stop the federal government from taking power from states?

    I thought that was the whole point and why the multiple school shootings were worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Seen the footage from both angles.

    That man was murdered.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Its mad to think that this is the country that has Aircraft Carriers steaming towards Iran at the moment under the guise of protecting protestors from a despotic state.

    Meanwhile, within their own borders they're executing their own citizens on the street for…….take a guess….protesting against a despotic state.

    The USA is f^&ked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The MAGA fascists want the state to have the right to kill any anti-Trump protestors and without consequences, that's all this boils down to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    It's very alarming to see that it's gotten to this point in just 12 months. Most predictions were much less extreme than this.

    The institutions of state over there have failed. The legislature is captured and it seems the court system is either captured or so slow moving it's not going to be capable of reining it in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,806 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Maybe this is where the edgy people hop off the Trump train. The silence says a lot.



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