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President Connolly

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,261 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    More details about that reprehensible Nkencho criminal today.

    why is Uachtarán Catherine staying silent?????

    mod: warned for trolling

    Post edited by Seth Brundle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,511 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You previously said

    'Look, I am not getting into any back and forth on this site,' 



    that's bowing out of the conversation

    TBH I think I'll continue respecting your decision. Take care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭pureza


    There is no precedent as far as I’m aware of a president commenting on criminal matters


    why she has not commented on the military industrial and maniacal regime of Iran murdering 1000’s of its people is beyond me,bar the utterly stupid left wing bias towards saying as little as possible about those regimes

    If Trump bombed the presidential palace in response there,she’d be out like an Olympic runner to condemn that of course and sympathise with the RG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,348 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


     For too long, the West has stood by while totalitarian states have repressed their own citizens

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    Come on now.

    Western Countries have A - no moral authority to speak on the repression of the citizens of various countries given how they themselves repressed the same citizens in many of the same countries as colonial powers. B - They do not have a particularly strong record of coming to the rescue of the repressed citizens and them same citizens ultimately being better off in the long run and C - They have been at least partly responsible for the emergence of the totalitarian states or the individuals who have led them being in a position to repress their citizens.

    If the world had evolved the way it was intended over the last 80 years or so, the UN and organisations like the EU would lead the encouragement of states to treat their people correctly using the tools of sanctions, trade embargoes/opportunities and the likes in a way that would be a lot more successful than the cigar chomping, film making, catch phrase muttering type of actions we get mostly from the US with the French and the British meekly contributing in the background.

    Wishing that Catherine Connolly was speaking in a manner encouraging any sort of military intervention by any country is the last thing the President of a country such as Ireland should be doing given our predilection for neutrality when it comes to all matters military.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,348 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Because the President of Ireland, Connolly or otherwise has rarely, if every spoken specifically about active criminal proceedings in the country.

    Or what leads you to think she should????? (whatever 5 questions marks are supposed to mean)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,511 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Somehow folk have gotten it into their heads that we have an, to coin a phrase 'a la carte' President who speaks when they say so.

    All our Presidents chose the appropriate time to comment or to not comment at all on world events. And for a variety of reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,835 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Presidents should not be commenting on any of it IMO, except maybe in the most anodyne generic "Give peace a chance" terms…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Because the mutterings from here are of no significance in the wider world..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,348 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'm fine with President Connolly speaking on things or not speaking on things as and when she chooses to.

    When she (or her predecessors) speak on things, I've never thought they're doing so out of an obligation or a sense that people demand they do so but instead just that this topic or another motivated them to speak at that time.

    And I'm fine with that. I want someone in the office who can formulate their own position and judgement on such matters and who can speak in a way which is broadly reflective of the mood of the country.

    We've had many Presidents who can behave in this way and thankfully it seems Catherine can do so as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Thanks for that, I am finding the responses from that poster more than a little strange.

    There doesn't appear to be any interest in actual debate, just blind defence of a particular position, or in this case, a particular politician. When that fails, find a reason to dismiss the poster, rather than the argument, in this case, it was my failure to reply to an argument that didn't deserve a reply because it was tangential and irrelevant. Balance is important in discussion and debate, together with an ability to see flaws in your argument or your own politician or political party or political view

    The reality is that everyone does good things and bad things. In this case, it is clear that Connolly's failure to condemn Iran is a bad thing. That means you should also have room for tolerance, sometimes people learn. Hopefully, Connolly will learn as President and move away from the hard-left college political position she seems entrenched in.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    The UN was doomed to failure once China and Russia were given permanent vetoes.

    Look around the world, the period from the 1970s to the 1990s saw the biggest increase in democracy as the likes of Franco and others fell, while the collapse of the Berlin Wall saw democracy move into Eastern Europe, to the consternation of the Irish left. We are now living in an era when democracy is in retreat.

    Nobody is asking Catherine Connolly to speak in any manner encouraging military intervention, I haven't seen that anywhere in the media or anywhere on social media. Ireland should be standing with democratic movements that are seeking to overthrow totalitarian regimes like those in Iran, Venezuela, Russia and others. That is all that is being asked of our President, stand with the ordinary people against the likes of the Ayatollah, Maduro and Putin. Stand against the retreat from democracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭pureza


    Rather than misrepresent in an effort to avoid awkward questions for a change could you actually at least address the question properly?

    All I ask is why she sympathises with maduro henchmen and stays quiet on 1000’s dead in Iran within the same week despite plenty opportunities?

    Is ir Daly and Wallace said don’t

    Does she agree with the Iranian FM on his ridiculous assertion that they were all killed by the Israeli’s dressed as republican guards?

    Or is it some leftist comradery ?

    It’s illogical whatever it is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,281 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Because it would be massively inappropriate to comment on an ongoing court case. It's a coroner's court, but still.

    You've clearly got a bee in your bonnet about this

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,511 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That's an easy one and I have given you the wherewithal too, in the absence of a comment look to see has she previously said anything in relation to similar events - as we see she has - then ask has she been converted to a different view of events like these since becoming President and if the answer to that is (as it is for me) 'that's just fantastical nonsense' consider other reasons for no comment'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭pureza


    few and far between but nothing on the biggest government massacre of its own citizens in the same week she sympathises with maduro henchmen most of whom happen to be Cuban

    I have a theory and I’d say I’m right,the hard left are soft on revolutionaries but hard on democracies

    Mainly because they think the former is their main route to power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,511 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I have one too, there are those who cannot tolerate balanced criticism and who seek to silence it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭creedp


    Mirror, mirror on the wall who is the fairest of them all?

    It’s always great to hear from people who have the deepest knowledge of the inner working relationship of the President and the DFA as against those who continuously blow hot steamy speculative air from their rear pipe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭pureza


    I know I’ve won when you resort to the,you’re trying to silence me chess nut rather than answer why maduru henchmen are more important to sympathise with in the same week Irans revolutionary guard murders 1000’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    The silence from the Park gets stranger by the day. Amnesty International, UN Human Rights organisations, European leaders, all domestic party leaders except PBP, but the President remains silent on the biggest international news of the day, the largest number of protesters killed by their own government since Tianmen Square. Incredible stuff.

    The Irish hard left have a big problem when they defend Iran, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea and others who are horrible repressive regimes.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    What difference would it make, she has not go a clue how social media works and has successful caused the algorithms to drop her, so nobody will see it in any case. She puts her stuff out in a minority language that nobody bothers to click on and so the show goes on without her.

    I used to see regular stuff from Michael D, but not from her and it's no surpise. Her first paragarph is in Irish, people don't bother clicking on it and so it dies. She was the best of a very poor selection and is living up to that expectation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,748 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    The key word there is “in the past”. In the past Connolly was not President. Convention dictates she doesn’t comment on the remit of the executive or even the opposition.

    If she did so obliquely grand she might get away with it. But if Connolly went mouthing now about Iran / Venezuela / USA etc etc myself and others would correctly wish she “stayed in her lane”.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,575 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I have heard more than 1 pundit on RTÉ, Newstalk or Irish Times say that Catherine Connolly's social media game helped her to no end in winning the presidency. So to say she hasn't got a clue how social media works is just false.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    I think you missed my point. Connolly has commented as President on the Cuban mercenaries killed in Venezuela, and she has also commented on Gaza and Sudan as President. I wasn't talking about her time before President, so that is a failed rebuttal. I have no issue with the President reflecting the views of the Irish public on matters international. She should stay out of domestic issues which are clearly the purview of the elected government.

    The problem is she picks and chooses often the wrong ones to comment on internationally. Lamenting the deaths of Cuban mercenaries who died defending an evil dictator is a strange one. So too her silence on the civilians being killed by the Iranian regime. She is making the same mistakes as her predecessor, who if I recall correctly, praised the Iranian government, the one now killing its own people.

    I am bemused at the lengths some are going to defend her on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,748 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I am not defending Connolly merely stating if she went off on the non apolitical. I would be the first to say it. It was the reason I didn’t vote Connolly. I was afraid she wouldn’t stay apolitical and keep her trap shut. So far she has just said vague things like “appalling”. Higgins in contrast as President went two feet in, commenting on NATO etc as president! He also got his wife to write a letter calling for Peace in Ukraine. In my opinion Connolly has been more considered and careful thus far. Which surprised me.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    I am comparing her sympathy for Cuban mercenaries with her lack of sympathy for the innocent civilian victims of the oppressive Iranian regime.

    I know where I stand looking at both of those, I think I know where the Irish people stand looking at both of those, but Connolly appears to stand in a different place. I think that is unacceptable.

    If she had kept her mouth shut about the Cuban mercenaries killed in Venezuela, then her silence on Iran wouldn't look so incongruous, but her kneejerk anti-Americanism couldn't help itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,748 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    But my point is she is keeping herself in check. Keeping it vague international law, etc It is couched and subtle. Unlike her predecessor’s second term in particular.
    I don’t have any gripe with Connolly (thus far) which surprises me. Thought there would be loads for me to be horrified by at this stage. In my view you would have to do a fierce amount of nitpicking to find something “egregious”.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    The Iranian rebellion is a once-in-40 years occurrence, right up there with 1989.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,221 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    So when she commented on the 100+ people killed in Venezuela air strikes and kidnapping, did you inform her that they were ALL Cuban mercenaries? Do you dislike all Cubans or just the ones hired for security? Do you consider the attack a violation of international law? Don't expect an answer.

    Sudan/Ukraine was in the Christmas message. Iran/Venezuela hadn't even happened. You are being disingenuous.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    It is one thing to come in and defend the silence of Connolly, it is an altogether different thing to come in here and consider paid Cuban mercenaries to innocent Iranian civilians and put the Cuban mercenaries on a higher standing as you appear to do.

    From what we have learned the vast vast majority of those killed in Venezuela were members of the Venezuelan military or hired criminal guns. That our President speaks out for them but not for innocent Iranian civilians is a disgrace. I can only assume that you share the same rabid anti-Americanism that pervades the far left in Ireland.

    I dislike all mercenaries, Putin had a group of them committing war crimes in Ukraine before he sent them to Africa to start killing Christians. Maybe you think Cuban mercenaries and the Wagner group can be excused because they fight for the good guys like Maduro and Putin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,221 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Blah blah blah. But you didn't answer any of my questions. Just made up stuff. Good luck to you and your crusade. Impeachment imminent?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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