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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    he also said there is a network of people who “pay for the bricks” thrown at these protests. I knew roadstone were up to no good…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    I’ll say a prayer for the nutter who went to his house with a hammer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The fact that an innocent person failing to follow instructions of a federal agent is a very minor offence seems to be totally lost on the MAGA cult members. She was not a suspect, had not committed any crime and the ICE killer had no reason to believe she was a suspect or a criminal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    what are we talking about here ? Is it the car moving at 5 miles an hour away from them or some other delusion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    He fits right in. Trump, Hegseth, Miller, Noem. Replace the name and that post could be about any of them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Acosta


    He's spent the last 20 minutes ranting at the white house press core, accusing them of doing exactly what he's currently doing himself. Watching a video and assuming he knows exactly what happened, and assigning blame, before any investigation has concluded. Not to mention trying to tarnish a dead woman by making a load of things up. He's a **** lunatic. An utter hypocrite. A liar. And a c*nt.

    And the absolute state of these hand picked maga YouTubers and bloggers just about managing to read out the questions from their phones, the White House has given them beforehand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Your opinion is that it's ok to shoot if the driver is incapacitated?

    There's just the inconvenient fact that yesterday's shooting victim was not an incapacitated driver and the extra fact that shooting might only have incapacitated her.

    A close-up of the video shows the agent who fired the killing shots taking his pistol out of its holster as the first agent was standing beside her car with his hands on the car door beside her. One might take a determination from that action that he was already preparing to open fire on her and that was proven by him firing his first shot directly toward the front windscreen of her car as she drove it away from the other agent, after which the shooter fired more shots through the open drivers side window directly at her as it passed parallel to him, with him some feet away from it.

    Another recording of the shooting, the one taken facing toward her car as it drove up the street showed the car did not touch or injure him, despite the false allegations made by Trump that she drove her car over the agent. He was able to fire his pistol a second time directly through the open window at her in the drivers seat.

    The footage also showed her car continued to drive on up the street with no one controlling until it stopped by colliding with another parked car, due to her being shot dead to, as you suggest, "incapacitate" her. Imagine what would have happened if it had collided with human beings instead before it stopped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,413 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The post you've replied to is taking about not being affected by innocent people getting shot in the face in the US anymore as its so frequent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Just imagine if Derek Chauvin got the same treatment, he’d be a national hero with statues according to Vance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭thomas 123




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭8mv


    I've noticed that often they misspell 'borders' - one just a short time ago. Is it a common trait amongst knuckle-draggers or could it be a few idiots with multiple accounts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I watched his performance at the briefing and am left with the conclusion that he and others in the Admin want a U.S civil war, regardless of the further harm it would cause the U.S. It's almost like they are of the "you'll have to take it from my cold dead hands" mindset.

    I wasn't a bit surprised that they had their favourite media puppet, Peter what's his name, pop up with the first loaded question, opening the door for another media rant about the lefties and the Dems and the dead driver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,480 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    She got her Darwin Award and they love getting awards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭Infini


    I saw the videos of what happened, she was letting them pass before one of the ICE Goons shouts at her and grabs her car door, spooking the poor woman who then tries to turn and leave before another fires at her head at point blank range. It was an execution of an unarmed innocent civilian in broad daylight. Its disgusting in no uncertain terms so dont try making excuses for it, you dont have a valid point period. Theres no justification for murdering people like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,324 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Countries and parts thereof are for sale now? OK, what about California? It would go nicely with Taiwan for China and onshore all those China-friendly high tech firms. Pay off some of the debt too. Republican wins would be much more likely sans The Golden State. What’s not to like? Maybe start with Alaska and work on down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The lack of sympathy from that psychopath is something else. An innocent young woman and US citizen with no criminal record is shot to death on the street and he can't even describe it as a terrible tragedy and a deeply regrettable incident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,301 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭Patser


    I really like how Vance said ICE were going door to door looking for criminals.

    I had a laugh at that. Knock Knock, any criminals here?? OK, let's try next door.

    So much for reasonable cause or warrants, just go door to door and look at colour of who answers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭Infini


    The lack of sympathy is a feature with not just him but his entire degenerate administration, the Republican Party as well, these people are either sociopaths, psychopaths or outright degenerates. They're disgusting, vile people and its sickening how things are playing out and I truly wish to see an end to this goddamn timeline already. I swear should that Orange Bollocks keel over tomorrow its gonna be the biggest celebration bar Putin eating shìt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Look, I have been saying for a long time that Trump is absolutely one of the worst people that's ever inhabited this earth. There is no doubt about this in my mind. I've actually run out of words to use to describe how disgusting this man is. And the people that enable him (basically the entirely of the current GOP) are almost as bad as he is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Most of the cult members are right wing authoritarians who would be happy to live in a police or military state (ditto with their fan boys from afar). The slide into authoritarianism and possible dictatorship with the MAGA movement is quite the sight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭secman


    America is totally fcked , the" United " bit in the name is so so inaccurate and progressively getting worse by every breath that Trump takes, I long for the day he dies, hopefully painfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Theres no justification for murdering people like that.

    What's disturbing is that there are people who feel the need to try and do so, whilst at the same time making themselves look lower than snake piss. That anyone cannot just look at the murder this woman (and it was murder) and just simply say that it was wrong is very damning indeed.

    A person would have to have a seriously damaged psyche if their reaction to this is to somehow try to make it ok, when it is anything but ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,413 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    That’s not how the US military justice system works.

    Anyone court martialled for refusing an unlawful order in a situation that the judge agrees that it was, in fact, an unlawful order, (even if at the time it was not known to be unlawful) will not be convicted or discharged.

    The Nuremberg principle is very commonly misapplied. “I was obeying orders” is a listed defense in the US system, to the surprise of many, A soldier who obeys an order which is not clearly unlawful at the time it was given (regardless of if the judge later decided it was) is to be acquitted.

    The other relevant Nuremberg principle often missed is that the crimes were those of senior leadership on principles. “Crime against peace”, “crime against humanity” sort of thing. “Invade Greenland” is the sort of thing a general officer can be tried for, we have the Nuremberg precedent. Private soldiers (Rep Lieu’s otherwise reasonable statement notwithstanding), there is no precedent for charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭rogber


    Let's hope someone successfully takes out Trump this time. The man is a menace to the world and a disgusting human being on every level. His kids are not far behind, particularly the two older sons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    2 wrongs don't make a right. Take the high ground instead of dropping to their level.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Could the media outlets and various politicians be subject to slander and/or libel laws, if they deem her a terrorist?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    He'd become forever martyred and people would forget about him being in the Epstein Files and a rapist and a fraud and...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    No but Trump and Vance doing all that media resonated with voters. The other side thought they'd win without engaging properly.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



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