Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Comments about 'the Dems' are almost always along the line of - ok the Republicans/Maga/Trump did this, but the Dems…

I don't personally give a damn about the Dems, they are a political party in another country, and granted, not very effective. However they cannot be held in even the slightest comparison to Trump and his cronies. No matter how weak they are, they have demonstrably made a decent job of running the country without causing chaos and harm. They should not even come into the conversation about the current situation, there is no comparison.

is Trumps behaviour not enough for you . The Demos do not have to tell us- or the Americans I hope - the damage Trump is doing. We will probably ‘ hear it all ‘ from the Demos when the canvassing starts for the mid terms. If the Demos started now then that would be a long time to be pulling up Trumps behaviour annd we would be all cheesed/turned off by the time the election comes around

The only demographic Trump won, was white males. Put the blame where it belongs. Minorities, women, all went for Harris.

It really feels like the sooner the second American Civil War starts, the better. At least if they're busy fighting each other for a couple of years, they'll be too busy to do anything more than collateral economic damage to the rest of the world.

Should I care that it'll cost thousands of American lives? Yes. Do I? Not really any more. America has fallen, it's a failed state run by a mafia boss who poses a clear and present danger to the western world. I probably have more sympathy the Russians Putin is feeding into the meat grinder in Ukraine at this stage: at least they can credibly claim not to have voted for their dictator and to have been tricked or forced into taking part.

The next few months are depressingly predictable: Trump is going to keep causing chaos to distract his followers from the Epstein files, the political establishment in the USA will continue to be too cowardly to stop him (see reports that Republican congressmen are in fear of thier lives if they vote against his dictats), the military will continue to follow his orders whether they're legal or otherwise, Greenland will be attacked so that Trump can get his way about extracting the US from NATO without needing to get the approval of congress.

The EU and wider Europe are going to have to get it's **** together very quickly: create mechanisms to remove or bypass the likes of Orban and get real about Ukraine. It's long past the point where there should be boots on the ground and planes in the sky. We need to end Russia's capability to continue the imperial dreams of it's mafia tzar. We have more than enough firepower to do so, and enough nuclear deterrance to counter Putin's nuclear arsenal (after all, you only need 2 nukes to destroy Russia: one for Moscow, one for St Petersburg). If the Russian Federation collapses when it's been driven out of Ukraine's land and civil war breaks out amongst the warlords that emerge, all the better: again, if they're too busy fighting themselves, the civilised world is free to get on with life and strengthen ourselves to deal with the all too real possibility of an attack from the US.

It sounds far fetched but can you really rule out a US invasion of Ireland at this stage? They're marching to the rantings of a senile narcissist who has quite literally become a nazi because he took offense to a harmless joke at a white house press dinner. If Europe were at war with Russia, what's to say Donald wouldn't send in the troops on the other side? Whether's he's actually a KGB agent dancing to Putin's orders or not, it doesn't really matter at this stage: virtually everything he's done in his second term has been in their favour. Seizing a Russian shadow fleet tanker and kidnapping the Venezualan president is nothing more than theatre, a distraction from the fact he's already killing political opponents and civilians while destroying the institutions that were supposed to safeguard American democracy.

"who has quite literally become a nazi because he took offense to a harmless joke at a white house press dinner."

Can you clarify that incident for me? I am not aware.

President Obama made Donald Trump the butt of some of jokes at the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner. According to Trump's political advisor Roger Stone, that was the moment that Trump decided to run for president.

Jaysus even Putin can't trust trump these days

Again, they did not vote in the majority for Trump. White males did.

He might've gotten more votes than in the past, but not the majority. Only white males.

Minorities vote more for Trump than last time, but they did not 'go' for Trump in that he did, sigh, not win a majority of minority votes (especially not women, minority males vote more for him.)

I think this is an example of the 'root' of the schism in America - white males feel hard done by. Hilary botched their vote (deplorables) in 2016. Biden could talk to them like one of them. Harris didn't have the time to get the message right, unfortunately.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/

Trump refuses to run mid-terms and / or step aside at the end of his term of office (perhaps using war with Denmark as pretext?), some blue states have enough and seceed.

American military personnel would do well to remember Nuremberg when they're being issued illegal orders. Better for their families to be destitute after an dishonourable discharge than to lose them to life sentences in the Hague for committing war crimes.

I agree with regard to the lack of any prospect of a (legitimate imho) military coup removing the Russian agent(s) from the White House: Trump has already had all the honourable men and women removed from the joint chiefs. Sadly, the only way the US military has any chance of being a positive influence on this situation hangs on an Operation Valkyrie style assasination of the Trump administration. A lone wolf could manage to take out Trump himself but whether that would be enough to bring American back to sanity, who knows?