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Charts ( up to T120) Winter 2025/2026 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Watching models closely from coast near kinsale. Though general concensus seems to be rain for the coast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Wind will be offshore, Northerly so it could snow here also more so after 3pm as the wind veers. Its all marginal stuff, but the risk of a disruptive event is there



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    I agree. Snow on the mountain tops in the counties concerned looks very likely, but the eventual snowline will hinge on a range of interacting factors. These include freezing levels, the intensity and duration of precipitation, near surface air temperatures and wind direction. If those elements align even briefly, there is scope for snow to fall to much lower elevations than the current guidance suggests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I'd say the opposite regarding the GFS, it always overestimates precipitation and in my experience, vastly overestimates snowfall.

    I think tomorrow morning will be fine on the south coast, just cold rain, with snow for higher ground and some isolated lower ground stuff as well. That said, it is all to play for as apart from all of this, storms are always further north and arrive sooner than any of the models predict.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    GFS 12z Rolling out, further north, more moisture in the mix:

    The 06z 850 hPa's:

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    New 12z:

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    The 06z Precip Type:

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    The 12z PrecipType:

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    Subtle changes, but increased moisture - heavier rainfall, evap cooling… long shots, but nonetheless we can all hope!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    CControl Certainly looks heavy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Arome is looking very good

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    Uk met office have their warnings out. Alot of snow, particularly Wales with up to 30cm. The South coast of Ireland looks to get the heaviest precipitation but is very close to the very mild sector of the storm with the snow only being on the very high elevations. The cold wrap around however looks likely to produce a nice fall of snow for Wicklow and parts of Wexford. They might be the surprise packets !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Jma also going for the heaviest ppn off the South Coast (As in torrential)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    I think someone already pointed out though that their separate chart showing lying snow is very underwhelming suggesting the snow will largely be too wet to settle

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    12z Arome



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Yep Arome's precip type chart is not good away from the highest peaks. Mostly rain and sleet all the way. I think there will be some temporary cover in some low lying areas well inland, but it will be wet slush at best.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Rte 6 o clock news tonight saying “storm Goretti is tracking across Europe”. Sorry? Am I missing something? Fairly certain it’s only forming now!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Doesn't exist right now. Will undergo rapid development through tomorrow morning and afternoon off our south coast as it tracks over southern England, The Channel Islands and NW France.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Same here thought I was hearing things typical RTE can never get things right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭esposito


    In fairness it wasn’t just RTE - Euronews said the same thing!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The outlook for tomorrow remains broadly the same with snow likely restricted to high ground in the south and southeast of Ireland. Snow cannot be ruled out at lower levels as the system pulls away into the Celtic Sea. More extensive lower level snowfall is likely across Wales and central England.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭YanSno


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    GFS sounding 1500hrs for Tipperary supports snow, with a small caveat about how well it sticks.

    Here’s why:

    The red line is temperature and it stays below 0 °C through essentially the entire column from cloud level down to very near the surface. That means no melting layer aloft, so precipitation will fall as snow crystals rather than rain that refreezes.

    There is no warm nose above freezing anywhere in the mid-levels, so sleet/freezing rain are not suggested.

    Near the surface the temperature is around 0–2 °C (tcon ≈ 2 °C). That’s marginal, but still cold enough that snow can:

    fall as snowflakes

    possibly be wet/slushy at ground level

    With the LCL/CCL ~170–184 m, saturation occurs very low, supporting low cloud bases and precipitation reaching the ground.

    What this means at the ground

    Snow is likely to fall as snowflakes

    If the surface temperature is 1–2 °C, it may:

    accumulate on grass/elevated surfaces

    struggle on warm roads/pavement

    If wet-bulb temperature is near 0 °C, dynamic cooling could drop surface temps enough for sticking snow

    What would change:

    If a shallow layer >0 °C developed near the surface → wet snow or rain

    Strong ground warmth before onset → melting on contact



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Ninja Snow noun \ˈni-njə ˌsnō\

    1. Meteorological phenomenon characterised by its stealthy, sudden appearance, often when one is least prepared; typically lands on cars, footpaths, and unsuspecting pedestrians with the precision and surprise of a ninja.
    2. A snow event that seems to appear out of nowhere, evading all forecasts; may cause mild panic, frenzied shovelling and salt spreading, school closures, #sneachta trending on social media, traffic delays, 5-a-side cancellations, or inexplicable joy.

    Synonyms: stealth snow, surprise flurry, furry rain.
    Antonyms:
    expected snowfall, weather you planned for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭YanSno


    This could be one of them Ninja's across some parts of south midlands tomorrow



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The high-res AROME-PE France 15z update brings that system a lot further north

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    I actually think Friday morning snow chances are better than tomorrow. Less marginal very early like 6am in Southwest. Thickness is better and uppers are lower

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,509 ✭✭✭pad199207


    More Atlantic Wet Slush I’m afraid. Worst weather ever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭irishfeen


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    ITV main evening weather going rain completely and Cork at a balmy 6 DegC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Been watching that. A very curious sector of very cold dewpoints coming in off the Atlantic off a W/NW wind.

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    Wildly out of sync with some other models for that time period though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    Looks to be a bit of a shift North alright. That would mean the warmer sector moves in more over the south (rain) but the eastern flank of the storm pulls in the colder air along Wicklow and Wexford (snow). This Storm just bombs in 12hrs from tomorrow morning. Amazing mother nature.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    Excellent post. If I remember correctly you popped up a chart this time last year for Portlaoise showing very similar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭YanSno


    Yes and I see similar characteristics to January last year, the low is exiting the jet stream out of the Atlantic South West of Ireland, a northward wobble would be more likely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Yoghurt87


    We got six inches of lying snow inland Midwest this time last year so I’m all in for a replay. Similar charts and trends but very much a nowcast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Significant downgrades this evening across all 18z runs. Unfortunately it's a non event with the gfs really the only model going for it. Ironically the longer term Easterly/ Scandi High has also vanished from the runs. Next...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Well at least it will be very wet, cold, windy and absolutely fecking miserable. What more can you ask for in mid January!



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