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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    There's a fair smattering of talent across the squad, it'll come good in time. Lancaster is a good coach and we need a little luck on the injury front too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    I know typhonny, I shouldn't have been so optimistic. Joking aside I don't see the issue here being a front 5 but a front 3 issue. We have lots of quality second row players. And of course we have the issue of Bundee as well. Thankfully 6 nations is around the corner so he will be out of sight for a while. And isn't that a terrible indictment of a player that you are happy to see him gone to international duty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    Thanks for your words… It seems a dark place right now…

    I think Richie got some great coaches into Ulster… They don't have sexy playing resume but they are some of the best coaches around… Duffy was very important too…

    Jarad Payne might be an option for us as defence coach…

    Our big problem right now is injuries… We just don't have the depth to had two loose head and two tight head and our no.1 hooker injured against Leinster… We played the last 10 min with a two Academy props and our third choice hooker Front Row against a Front row of 2 Lions and Irish International…

    We have lost games because we have no kicker and we solved that (hopefully), We lost games in early December because we have no scrum.

    We just need a break from injuries… We will have better days…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭seanin4711




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    hopefully some hard questions asked as to where the plan and progession is ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I wonder if Lancaster is finding that Stuesdays and a high possession playstyle are less suited to a smaller squad. Injuries are mounting and we looked out on our feet towards the end of the Leinster game.

    Hard to know what way we'll approach the next two games. I think six points will be enough to secure a home R16 tie, perhaps even five. There are a lot of players who could use a rest IMO. Judging by the first rounds, Montpellier will name quite a strong team, and Montauban won't be remotely bothered. Therefore, I think I would heavily rotate this week, accepting the risk of emerging with no match points, and strengthen for the Montauban game to try build some cohesion and momentum.

    15-9, 1-8: Bohan, Tierney-Martin, Illo, N Murray, O'Connor, O'Brien, McCormack, Boyle, B Murphy, Ioane, Treacy, Hawkshaw, J Devine, Jennings, West

    16-23: de Buitléar, Duggan, Barrett, Joyce, D Walsh, Flynn, Lindner, S Walsh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭mogwai81


    Is Sean Naughton injured?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Trey13


    Yeah agreed. Too many players that are just about surviving at this level.

    Now the positive is that I think quite a few of the academy lads are extremely talented, particularly the ones we have gotten from Leinster. It will take a few years to bring them through but no better man than Lancaster in my view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 43,002 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'd love to see Cathal Forde as the starter and I think he'll get better and better as time goes by.

    But you are scapegoating Bundee for problems elsewhere. He's still a very good player. You need to look around more during games at what's going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭mogwai81


    Just read a quote from Lancaster stating Naughton is due back soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Yes. Not far off returning according to Lancaster in the Leinster post match press conference (along with a few others).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    I agree with a lot of what's been said here, especially about the lack of heft in the pack - we are winning very few collisions these days, regardless of opposition, and that needs sorting. As well as that, we've had no luck at all. I remain convinced that Lancaster is the right man - my main fear is that some of the other coaches/leaders are not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭typhoony


    The only positive i can see at this stage is that we are only 3 points off 8th place with a game in hand also that game in hand is played during the 6 nations which is good news



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    right guys- where is the next win coming from?

    new stand v Leinster and realistically cant compete at their level- so going to be a very hard watch in my new VIP comfy green plastic seat !

    I would take a performance(not even a win) - just for the team & coaches to put a solid 80min performance together over anything i have seen thus far this season!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    As I think someone else pointed up above, you could very well be facing a Leinster side more akin to the team we rolled out for the first couple of weeks of the season, minus all the internationals I suspect.

    I believe Ireland are going to camp in Portugal that week, and Leinster will probably be fully loaded the next two weekends in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    agreed- this fantasy of winning the challenge cup - we are not within an asses roar of it!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think our success in finishing top 8 will have to coincide with a much much reduced injury list.

    I still think the odds are against us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Just like to add that you're never as bad as it seems and you're never as good as you think.

    Ulster are awesome, class, world beaters etc. ( absolutely no disrespect intended to Ulster, I'm delighted for them.) but in reality we should have beaten them.

    Leinster are super, brilliant, wonderful ( who cares) for 20 minutes when we got our **** together they were average.

    Let's give these guys some time to get it sorted, I can take a few hammerings if we are moving in the right direction.

    Bealham, Murphyx2, Prendergast, Forde, Gilbert, illo, Heffernan, Bolton, Mack, Naughton, are all playing well and we are just missing a bit of cohesion and luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    I agree with Shiney…

    Before this injury crisis we were almost winning… The performances were good and we were just ending up on the wrong side of games…

    We lost to Cardiff away and Munster away for the lack of a kicker… We played a backline of kids… Matt Devine played 50 min on the wing…

    Lost by a point to the Bulls after a wrong Red card was given out and the SA player didn't get one… That went to last kick of the game which a very green Sean Naughton took.

    Munster by two points where we had 0 kicks from 5… Devine had to come on for Ralston after 42 min. Munster hammered Leinster the week before. They were on a 5 in a row.

    Beat Sharks

    Ospreys game looked bad but our scrum just collapsed… We were playing with 13 playes for 10 min at point (I think) against the wind. It was a classic day of what could go wrong, went wrong. Like Munster v Zebra last season.

    Beat Black Lions.

    Dragons was a very sore point and probably the main reason for our heads dropping… It was bad. The team just fell apart for 40 min, it was a shambles… But we scored the last 3 tries to claim a bonus point, it is a poor consilation prize but it shows that this team can rally. Carty did very well that night, he came on and settled the ship.

    Ulster loss was no disgrace. They are going great guns at the moment. We are disappointed that we had them under so much pressure and failed to convert but they are a very well coached side and are clearly further along their path than us right now. But we kept it close and I think we a few changes we could win these type of games.

    Leinster, well we gave it our best… We just don't have the depth in front row, our back defence was exposed… This was a bridge too far at the moment… We gave a great half of rugby but the benches were miles apart… Leinster 6-2 split just hammered us and their backs totally exposed us.

    So get some players back… Need better lineout and need props back to hold the scrum… We have a kicker or two… Naughton is coming more and more important… Devine needs a bit of luck at this stage…

    I might be a bit optimistic but Pat Lam had a worse start… I think we have a lot of good players and especially a great crop of young players… Get coaching right in all areas and Connacht could be the place that the best young talent in Ireland want to be to cut their teeth…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭seanin4711




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    Look at it this way…

    Last season we played Ulster who were going throught the horrors and we played at home and lost 17 - 7. Ulster were full of injuries and we had very few.

    This year same encounter… Ulster is flying, playing some of the best rugby in a decade. We are decimated with injuries. We loose 29 -24.

    I know this isn't a win but it is a vast improvement. Lancaster has done that mainly by expanding his picking pool… Wilkins had ghosted a chunk of players who are back now.

    While the results aren't going our way, I am some how excited that we are improving with young team… Coaching is key, especially assistant coaches, Ulster have shown that… I prefer a good young lad with good coach over a established player with poor coaching..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    I was really surprised how unfit Connacht looked on Saturday night. I was sitting quite close to where they were warming up, and quite a few guys looked to be blowing quite heavily post the warm up.

    Lancaster is notorious for wanting his teams to be super fit (his 'Stuesdays' sessions are infamous), so some of this (and the late tries they're shipping in certain games this season) could very well be attributable to that, as the squad get used to the demands of playing for him.

    I loved that about the Leinster sides when he was head coach - always felt we finished games very strongly and was always confident in our ability to outlast other teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Interesting, I have thought throughout the season that Sam Illo in particular looks very unfit. For most of Lancaster's tenure at Leinster, they were rotating heavily in the league as the competition was weaker, their squad was bigger, and there were more games during international periods. Perhaps he needs to adjust the training load to account for the fact that he now has less ability to rotate week on week. Sean Jansen, Josh Murphy, Dave Heffernan, and Darragh Murrray have played between 64% and 78% of available minutes so far this season.

    Alternatively, perhaps we are trying to bulk players up to try to win the collisions that we need to play Lancaster's high phase count game.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Could be the change in game?

    Less edge to edge and more a (losing) power game and they are blowing out their holes faster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,312 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Rumours of Jack Aungier to Munster ahead of next season.

    Connacht to bring in up to 10 new players. Obviously one already confirmed in Frawley.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Would be a blow to lose Aungier he has improved a lot over his time with us. Hopefully he isn't going anywhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,664 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Was gonna say, for all the doom and gloom a BP win v. Scarlets and we're top 8 - its not over yet but there is zero margin for error. Need Stu to string together a few wins back to back. For all the poor execution in the red zone, we actually did play some really good rugby in that first half against Ulster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    The rumour mill is suggesting there is talks with the likes of McKee, Penny, Larmour, Connors etc as the CC contributions mean Leinster need to shed some of those players.

    Could Connacht be getting some IRFU influence to sign Alaalatoa for next season if Aungier heads south? Got to assume John Ryan and Salanoa are gone and Jager has had his injury issues.

    If Jager gets over his injury issues could he be heading to Galway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Feels like the CC funding model could have a seismic effect on Irish rugby this season.

    A 40% funding of the Leinster CC could have as much as a 1.5 million (guestimate) hit on Leinster's playing budget. That means lots of players on the move.

    Boyle would be a decent addition to our loose heads and we could survive losing Aungier even if it is a little unpalatable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭KBurke85


    We're better off focusing on developing Illo and Barrett than signing Alaalatoa. He hasn't looked good at all for Munster 



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