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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    I thought it was just once he pinged WC for around the side, but didn't seem to care about side entries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭MarinersBlues


    Bundee was caught rotten for 3 tries tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭dockysher


    Be simillar score in home fixture i expect. Absolulety no imrovement. Worse than last few years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Trey13


    I think Lancaster will have Connacht come good in the long run. First season in was always going to be tough. Some of the players out there (mainly front 5) are completely out of their depth. That is an area that needs serious improvement. It looks like Connacht are running into brick walls and they are ran over in their own 22.

    Some of the young players have talent I think and will come good - it will take time with this squad and sometimes you need to endure some tough results (just look at Ulster when Murphy took over).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    We were absolutely wrecked at the end there, looked like we were a man down. Hard to know where to go from here. Do we throw the Montpelier game, then try to put a big score on the Montauban espoirs to build momentum for the Leinster return fixture?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Connacht have gone backwards rapidly this season....the lineout used to be good -now it has been poor...

    Bundee Aki needs to be moved on....

    Dreadful 2nd half...poor conditioning work going on....

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭AccidentallyOnside


    Another chastening evening.

    From our pov thought Jansen was good, with the crazy offload and glaring counterpoint but thought our best player on the night was West, showed up really well with some good runs and defence.

    A poor showing but we did create a good few chances that would have put some respectability on the scoreboard. Going to be very hard to recruit any quality in, or hold on to the bit of quality we have, with many more scorelines like that.

    At this point the season is basically cooked. The table might show we're amongst it but with the fixtures ahead the top 8 looks like a real stretch. Of the remaining fixtures in the URC you wouldn't fancy us in any of the games except Zebre and possibly Osprey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,312 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Decent first half but the last 20 minutes there Leinster were making so many line breaks it looked like they had 3 extra players on the field. All they were doing was putting the ball through the hands and a big gap would appear. It was a bit embarrassing from a Connacht perspective. Defence just completely capitulated.

    Confidence within the squad must be very low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Strand1970


    100% agree, can't win without a competive front 5. Need recruitment bigtime in the forwards. Until then we will have alot of blow outs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Aswell as the front 5 lack of power the defense seems to be back to being as bad if not worse than last season after a better looking start in the first few games....

    129 points conceeded in the last 3 games. If we can't improve that then we won't win many games for the rest of the season



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We are where we are sadly. Not a very good team.

    The recent years of recruitment have been mostly very poor. Coaches included.

    I suspect Lancaster is a bit stunned at the scale of the task but we haven’t really seen a bounce either in some new coaching from him.


    I think it’s going to take a few seasons to rebalance the squad and get some consistent performances to be a top eight and true play off side.

    If we ever get there.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’d be canning Europe and trying to fight for top eight. That’s what they are being judged on and given our injuries, we don’t have the resources for both.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Two many poor performances tonight ensured Leinster hardly had to work for scores.


    Mullins

    Hawkshaw

    Aki

    Both halfbacks

    I could go on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭roverjoyce


    This is embarrassing

    Lancaster should be called out and questions asked

    What is the plan or future as there seems to be none

    Can we look for a potential Pat Lam rather than been stuck with an Leinster& IRFU gospel spreader



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    There's no point hiring any coach if we are going to give up on them after 10 games. We have been rubbish for the past few years, it's not going to change overnight.

    We are giving academy players far more gametime than we ever have before. Ulster did similar last year and finished 14th. Richie Murphy was getting loads of criticism on here from Ulster fans, who felt that they had been short changed in comparison to the quality of coaches at other provinces.

    Honestly, sneaking into a top 8 finish would be a negative for us. We don't have anywhere near the squad to compete in the Champions Cup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    In terms of a bounce, I think we got a bit unlucky with the cancellation of the game against an injury ravaged Scarlets. That was a likely 5 pointer and with a bit more momentum I think we could have done the job against Cardiff. We then lost by 1 and 2 points to the Bulls and Munster respectively. In another world we could have had 5 wins from the first 5 games.

    Unfortunately, the wheels have come off spectacularly. Especially in defence, which looked much improved early in the season and has now reverted to what has been the mean for about 10 years now.

    It seems like our confidence is in the gutter since the collapse against the Ospreys. I think we need to rotate heavily over the next two weeks, we look wrecked. Montauban won't be remotely bothered so hopefully we can put a big score on them to build a bit of confidence and produce a big performance for the occasion of the first game at the expanded stadium.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 43,002 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The front five is the issue. Other players are going to look bad when they are trying to cover for players who haven't got back. It will hopefully only take one off-season to fix the front five and hopefully our young players will be great cover and depth by the end of this season.

    I'm not at all worried about this season. It's quite clear Lancaster has a long term plan. He's out and about the whole time talking to all the coaches from junior clubs as well as the AIL ones.

    He clearly wants to load up the academy with young talent. At Leinster he was well known for developing young players coming through to the senior squad. We are seeing loads of our academy players getting time on the field now. Some of them will break through soon.

    It's not an issue for me to see another season like the last one so long as we see development and improvement next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Lineout is a shambles and with Joyce, Murphy and Prendergast in there it's not due to a lack of targets. Maybe restrict ambition until confidence improves.

    A couple of reduced numbers Lo's, a few short ones,the odd quick one and lots to the front. Getting quality attacking ball off the top isn't of great value to this team because we can't get through the phases to make it count.

    Just secure the ball to at least stop us being opened off turnover ball.

    I have a feeling things will settle once we sort the lineout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    One of the problems we have at the moment is that we have one tightead and two loose heads injured… We had to bring on Academy front row(never hear of a team doing that) for the last 20 min against a full international set. That was going to create issues which create gaps…

    We showed we can compete but just lack depth massively, especially with all our injuries…

    Leinster were stacked with a 6 - 2 split on the bench and that showed. Our forwards aren't big enough to take that kind of punishment… Joe Joyce is our biggest Lock and he is 118kg, every one of the Leinster Locks weigh that or more (even their academy player : Conor O'TIGHEARNAIGH)… Actually James Ryan is the only senior Leinster Lock that weighs less than Joyce.

    As for Lineout, sorry but that has coaching issues written all over it at this stage..

    I had a list of D2 players in France who can give us a bigger lock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭typhoony


    I havent got the stats but were we really that much better last season. Same personnel but a different coach not sure how he's expected to improve us in one season. Also we have a major issue that a few of the teams that we could regularily beat in the URC have improved. I Could'nt for the life of me see how or why the optimism that some people on here had at the start of the season. We really do need some good signings in the pack as I'm not sure we have anyone in the academy thats going to step up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭lavrenti


    That's exactly what I would do. We don't want to ship 50pts at home to Leinster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    As an Ulster fan, I will say try not to lose heart. When Dan McFarland was shown the door in Feb 24, most of the fans were just delighted to have someone - anyone - else at the tiller. McFarland had overseen some real improvement and some great stretches when Peel and Payne were in situ, but we were going down the toilet.

    Richie Murphy pretty much had a free pass for the last few months of the season. He'd been a notable success with the U20s. The team seemed happier.

    Then last season was - I think? - our worst ever. Worse by far than anything under McFarland. No Champions cup, 14th in the league. We fired our defense coach, Bell, during the season and just asked Willie Faloon to help out when he could. There started being Ireland squads with not one Ulster player. Most fans kept the faith, although when it was announced you folks were getting Lancaster and Munster were getting McMillan, it did feel like we'd got Murphy simply because he was convenient and more time and money was being put into the search for other provinces' head coaches (and these are IRFU appointments, not branch appointments).

    But we're going great guns now. Far from perfect, behind Leinster <spits>, Stormers and Glasgow at the very least, but much improved. Playing much better rugby, young lads breaking through in a meaningful way. We also shed quite a few reliable, will-do-a-job-for-you but basically URC level players - Matty Rea, Andy Warwick, Al O'Connor, Kieran Treadwell and so on. Billy Burns as well. Just getting the wage bill down.

    So this season for Connacht could just be the equivalent of last season at Ulster. Lancaster has only had a few months in situ - I'd be pretty confident that after some initial pain, things will improve radically.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I don't disagree at all with the broad thrust of this, but there are a key factors that have worked in Ulster's favour:

    • They have been consistently producing good forwards for a few years now - Scott Wilson, Tom Stewart, Charlie Irvine, Cormac Izuchukwu, Harry Sheridan, Joe Hopes, Dave McCann, James McNabney, and Bryn Ward we're all born in 2000 or later.
    • They signed two very good power forwards in Bell and Augustus.
    • Murphy was able to bring in his own assistant coaches who he clearly trusts and shares a philosophy with.

    We don't have the same calibre of forwards currently and I don't think we'll be able to sign any of the same quality as Bell/Augustus. We'll see what happens with the backroom team, they're be some transition anyway with Colm Tucker going to the 20s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    All fair points. Certainly the last one - with Sexton and Faloon in place full-time, we look like a different team. Sexton so getting all the plaudits in the press, but Faloon had improved our defence - and, crucially, our attitude to defending - no end.

    I will say I have read rumours (presented as fact, naturally) that Larmour, Deegan, Penny and McKee have all signed for Connacht, as Leinster come to terms with their new financial reality around central contracts. If that were true, it would be a serious boost for you lads. But I can't stand over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Strand1970


    Deegan and McKee would be good additions. Penny and Larmor a bit of a luxury especially with current prop suitation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,312 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    It's front five we need really. I actually think our back row options are decent when everyone is available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Agreed but it's an attritional position, having one more quality option would allow us to use Josh Murphy exclusively in the second row, where I think he plays his best rugby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    Pat Lamb had a **** start to Connacht. He beat Zebra at home in his first game and then lost his next 8 games in a row and then beat Dragons…

    Lamb's start was way worse than Lancaster and Lancaster is working from a lower place…

    I will also point out that Richie Murphy had a similar start to Ulster… Can you remember the criticism of him last year… Richie Murphy had something last year which Lancaster doesn't have, Richie got to pick Jimmy Duffy early on as his forwards coach. He then added Willie Faloon and Mark Sexton… Richie worked with all these guys before and got to hand pick them

    Compare that to Connacht, Lancaster is inheriting a Coaching team that lost Mark Sexton… Had no dedicated defence coach for 2 years and was getting one for this season. The Lineout and scrum stats are not good. Our attack coach is unknown and attacks take 6 months to come right (it took Mark 6 months to get them working too).

    Personally I think Lancaster is doing as good as job you can coming from an awful place. I like the investment into the academy, he is building an assembly line. We played Munster this season and had only one in the back line (Ioane) over 24 yrs of age…

    What Lancaster needs is bulk… If he could that comes with youth, all the better… I don't mind us blooding a few and loosing the odd one back. But then, I love watching young emerging talent coming through… I watch Leinster schools rugby just get a glimpse of the future…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Given leinster will field the strongest team for the next 2 weeks, they'll send a heavily rotated squad to Galway the next week. For example Boyle, Baron, Slimani/Cahir, Mangan, Deeny front 5. Connacht could mostly handle that if they put out a strong team.

    Leinster might win but unlikely to be a big score



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