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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Are the oil fields mainly extracted out at sea? If that's the case the US will just take over. Venezuela won't be able to stop them.

    The evening of the Maduro capture it was reported a large amount of American jets landed at UK bases with their transponders off. People were joking that Starmer was next but in reality it looks like America is moving it's assets to the middle East. Everyone is distracted by Venezuela.

    I honestly think something big will happen in Iran especially after 9 days of massive protests. This civilian instability wasn't present when Israel attacked them last time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Sometimes movement of military assets, often aircraft carriers, is just a type of warning. There might be no intention of using any of it.

    But then again, we live in the era of Trump so who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,127 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Yeah , it'll take fairly large investment to get the Venezuelan crude really going -

    I Suppose things are a bit up in the air - but kind of yes - the yanks are in charge because they say they are -

    As to the Venezuelans just rolling over to just sell oil - their options are pretty limited, its all very well being all defiant - but the US controls the air and sea routes, and Venezuela is a food importer ,

    Wether the Venezuelan oil industry will be parceled out on the basis of who ran which fields or facilities pre-nationalization or that trump just rewards his " favourites" - who knows , ?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,127 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Sorry my bad - the Venezuelan oil industry was nationalised in 1976 , a generation before Chavez -

    So it looks like the US is just going to hand it out to American firms -likely Exxon..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    The only US company that stayed was Chevron I believe, they went along with Chavez' demands so have been in Venezuela ever since. They will likely take the smallest amount of time to ramp up production.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Possibly…

    OSINT accounts reporting that flight trackers show a lot of C-17s headed *east* to England from Savannah and Ft Campbell—homes of the ready Ranger battalion (1/75) and the 160th SOAR (which together would constitute DOD’s on-call airfield seizure package)

    There are other explanation like winter exercises, troop rotations, but it might be for more warmongering.

    I hope the EU is ready for appropriate measures should the US seize Greenland. Such measures might necessarily inflict severe collateral damage on Ireland.

    It would be the end of NATO, just for starters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,609 ✭✭✭✭josip


    2026 - Greenland. Denmark and the EU object strenuously but take no military action and decide to wait for the next US presidential term. NATO effectively finished.

    2027 - Iceland. No standing army, a couple of trawlers sunk but otherwise peaceful. GIUK gap being the excuse this time.

    2028 - Ireland. Spelled almost the same as Iceland so they might as well. Excuse is that their chip and pharma manufacture and data centres are here already. Trump in full Russian stooge mode now. Europe again shrug their shoulders and decide that discretion is the better part of valour. A few citizens send strongly worded letters to the Irish Times. EU starts to break up.

    Post edited by josip on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Some on here need to stop watching Pinky and the Brain. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭vswr


    If the US want to go to Greenland, It would be easier for them to stage from their existing bases in Alaska, Greenland and Iceland.

    As for the build up in the UK. Most people have concluded it most likely to do with the Bella 1 / Marinera and a potential boarding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    My grasp of geography is sufficient that I am aware they wouldn't be staging from the UK, it was just an aside. The US is hardly going to stage an invasion of Greenland from Iceland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Pinky and the brainless are running the show now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭vswr


    I doubt fully stage, but support, why not? At that point their involvement in NATO is done, and Iceland will be in the situation of having to choose whether to allow movements willingly, or not (which would require external support).

    Similar to how Columbia staged aircraft used in the Venezuela ops.

    Anyway's, digression, back to topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Upps wrong thread, should be Venezuela



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭thomil


    My suspicion is that they're going to use some fictitious threat to Pituffik Space Force Base, formerly Thule Air Base, as a pretext for a strike. Staging out of the UK would make sense insofar as it would allow an approach to the base well outside of radar-controlled airspace once you leave the UK behind.

    How any US strike force would fare in the Arctic winter is another matter entirely. Not only is the weather going to be absolutely brutal, but unlike the staff at Thule, any strike force would quickly realise that they're not the apex predator anymore:

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    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Efforts by the armed forces of Ukraine to disarm putin's terrorists continue:

    https://kyivindependent.com/russian-missile-factory-in-flames-after-ukrainian-drone-attack-media-report/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Hmmm …

    Ukranian drones scooting around the Moscow suburbs, seriously disrupting flights to the capital in the three days running up to the Russian orthodox Christmas. Purely coincidental?

    It's almost like Ukraine are hinting to the Muscovites that there's something going on in a distant part of Russky Mir that does affect their lives too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Are these drones purposely loitering around the Moscow airspace to disrupt flights and use up Russian AD missiles or are they heading directly at targets and doing the above anyway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Good analysis here on the next wave of Ukrainian defensive lines. I'm looking forward to seeing how they'll perform. Hopefully we'll never get to see the ones further back. The weak point is going to be the very South East where they took Hulipole. If that vector can hold I'd be pretty confident. I want to see Russian convoy's get smashed crossing those wide tank trenches.

    Edit:

    It'd be useful if I actually posted the **** thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Seems they were probing the territory for a couple of days, then got serious last night. Targets hit north, south and east of Moscow, and a raid on distant Bashkortostan for good measure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Screenshot_2026-01-06-08-02-10-253_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg

    That's alot of dead and wounded Russians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Backs up the comment by one of the Ukrainian defence forces recently that they're exceeding the replacement rate in casualties.

    As they approach 1.5 million casualties it's probably worth revisiting their demographics. With a population of around 140m estimates of what they have to serve in the military were around 15-18 million according to this article from 2023 -

    Russia’s abysmal demographics data, Its population has decreased by 1 million between 2020 and 2023, births fall on early 19th century levels | by Chris Snow | Medium. And that's when you use a broad age range of over 40 and up to 55.

    You need maybe 8-15 workers (so say 10) working in the economy for every 1 soldier. So basically 10 workers for every kitted soldier.

    Ukrainian Intelligence estimates 620,000 Russian troops in and bordering Ukraine. That's what Russia needs as a minimum to keep the current near stalemate situation. Simplistically, it needs a workforce of 6.2 million (just for the Ukrainian deployment) out of a total workforce of 82 million. Putin has room to mobilise more for sure but he's pulling more and more from the working population and things are clearly not going well on the economic front. Hence scenes of Indian migrants descending on Moscow.

    Scenarios that might bring Russia to the peace talks -

    1. Putin runs low on soldiers to throw to the grinder due to the demographics. I wouldn't make a prediction of when that might happen.
    2. The delta of Russian casualties to replacements continues to move in Ukraine's favour
    3. Finally that Russian economic collapse
    4. Putin dies

    Putin is playing a waiting game but with the European funding secured and while noting Ukraine's own manpower issues who does waiting suit best? Putin must also be aware that US midterms this year might help temper Trump somewhat. It could turn out that 2025 was the peak time for the best possible Russian outcome (which most still wouldn't have called a win).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    I think that's a v good analysis. It's clear the Russian demographics were already bad before this war. Now add in the casualties they've taken and it's clear it's made a bad situation so much worse.

    If Ukraine can keep the army in the field,supplied with enough equipment and man power to hold the line and keep racking up the Russian casualties its my belief that Russia cracks from internal dissent and their economy imploding.

    Strikes like this only speed up this process

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Good analysis indeed.

    Of those 4 scenarios, none of them will happen today or tomorrow but over the longer term one of them must occur.

    I suppose an extension of the 1st scenario (running low on meat for the grinder) likely means Russia still make sporadic attacks to gain ground, but with much lower numbers and intensity. Both countries keep firing drones and missiles at each other.

    Hopefully over time European support for Ukraine increases, and potentially US support also increases post-Trump.

    For Russia, it's hard to see things improving any time soon. I agree with you that 2025 was the peak time for them to get the favourable outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Also, as the US is so interested in Greenland I wonder has anyone suggested buying parts of Eastern Russia instead for their "security"? They should be able to pick up at a cheaper cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    I mean the current administration obviously. It should be put to them at interviews where they're claiming everyone has a price and are stating that they should be able to buy Greenlanders off. By a lot of metrics there's a better standard of living in Greenland than for your average American. Can't say the same for the average Russian in the Magadan Oblast for example.

    And alot of Russia's oil infrastructure is falling apart as Trump would say. The US need to go in there and get it up to speed plus ensure the average Russian gets a fair share of the bounty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Will they intercept it or not? If they haven't by now and after being asked by Russia not to I suspect they won't. Will any of the Baltic States do it instead if it gets that far though? Changing flag and ship name mid sea. Sure what'd be wrong with that.

    Route of Oil Tanker Pursued by US Being Monitored by Irish Authorities

    Edit: Just an update on whereabouts it is.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Interesting, according to your map, it is not that far from Greenland. Wouldn't that be something if the US boarded it and brought it to Greenland!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,154 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I'd say that the theory that Trump is a Russian agent will be confirmed if he takes Greenland by military force - totally un-necessary from a security standpoint. It destroys NATO as a serious organization, chaos within the EU - probable closure of US bases in Europe followed by the stoping of US weapons to EU and by extension to Ukraine. Putin would be delighted. Bonus having the spotlight taken from Russia.



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