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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Third wave in the air

    Busy night for Russia lol

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I can’t tell if she’s horrified or happy. Tricky language and delivery



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Power reported to be out in parts of Moscow. War is coming home for putin and hopefully this means his days in charge of his terrorist state are running out.

    https://news.liga.net/en/society/news/blackout-in-the-moscow-region-more-than-100-000-consumers-without-power-video



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Russian authorities say it was cause by a fire on an electrical bus😀😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Probably a busbar, badly translated. Busbars are the central infrastructure in a substation and facilitate various circuits and transformers to be connected together.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Ukraine should just call their bluff on kill the poison midget.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    You can just tell me the demonical howls of frustration that this latest smoking accident just hit extra hard.

    The speed at which the razzist terrorist state is imploding is rapidly speeding up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    There's actually a huge push from the left wing against this with the far left (PBP) etc being the most vocal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    You neglected to mention the shortage of housing which already exists the rise in demand and cost for those who will remain here . Those working are mostly in low income employment and pay little tax and don't pay for accommodation. Those from the EU or non EU make up any shortfall of jobs and do not get benefits.

    Problems exist with school places and teacher burnout .

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41102485.html

    In this link the government surplus is expected to be 9.7 billion for 2025 .Ireland's debt is among the highest in the world .

    https://www.ey.com/en_gl/technical/tax-alerts/ireland-budget-2025-an-overview-for-international-investors.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    The peace agreement will broadly end having the same territory as what was negotiated in 2014 .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    A link behind a paywall does not make the source false.I have not seen any review on Statista that claims it to be unreliable.

    The second link posted from Fiscal council shows that 3 billion was set aside for Ukrainians in 2023 and is higher for 2024 and 2025 do you dispute that also show with credible links . You will have to do better than just saying called out.

    Skilled immigration has worked and is strived for in most countries just allowing anyone to come is not beneficial.

    Post edited by rgossip30 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    rgossip30 , I understand what you are saying , so , if you were in charge of the brief re the UKR situation and had a TOTALLY FREE HAND what would you have done given the war that is going on?

    Some questions to help you along
    (1) would you be of the opinion that ALL Ukr should 100% stay in Ukr and therefor any Ukr coming to Ireland does not arise

    (2) or if you have a modicum of deceancy other ‘more wealthy countries can take them in but Ireland would not be one of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Given how often this is coming up now, I’m getting the impression that Moscow is especially concerned that Europe continue to be financially supporting Ukraine. Reminds me a lot of the howls we got from the Cauldron Club when there was a chance of the EU actually giving frozen Russian funds to Ukraine. It helps give us an insight into how the mood is over there and the impression I get is that they feel cornered financially.

    I wonder if any of this will be telegraphed in tonight’s New Year Gala on Russian TV. For the uninitiated, New Years is usually a bigger event in Russia than Christmas and the New Years Countdown variety show on TV is usually a massive deal. Since the war started it has also been a blatant channel for propaganda.

    Each year I also marvel at the bizzare presentation of it. While the various music acts and presenters do their thing on stage, the «audience» is filled with Russian notables sitting at tables. Each one holding a fully charged glass of what might be Champagne…a drink that is never touched for the 2+ hour run of the show. Each year I notice this, and each year I wonder… «why are they not allowed to drink?» «what weird image are they trying to project with this behavior?»

    Admittedly a small thing to point out with a state that is trying to systematically destroy a neighbouring democracy… but still…in interesting window in the mindset of some Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    There are other threads that people can be xenophobic about immigrants on.

    putins plan to destabilise Europe through immigration only seems to have worked on the a few shills.

    Either way, supporting defence of Ukraine is the best way to lower immigration, it would be much worse if russia was having success on the battlefield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    So you're saying/predicting that Ukraine and its western allies will succeed in driving Russia out of all the land occupied during the "Special Military Operation" ?

    In which case, Ukraine will have shown itself to be the superior military and political force, so why would it not be reasonable to envisage a day when they recover all of their territory? It would certainly strengthen any argument in favour of sending those pesky parasitic refugees home to where they came from, wouldn't it?



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    how will you earn your rubles when the russia falls into it's next cycle of misery?

    Mod - warned for ignoring moderator instruction

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    I disagreed from the beginning that Ukrainians should not have been given full social welfare . They should have been treated like any other asylum seekers. What is the future does this social welfare continue indefinitely. What happens when they want housing or does the state and ARP remain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭phester28


    It's very considerate of you to worry about what the state decides to pay the refugees who arrived between 2022 and 2024, since you do not live in Ireland. You realise that mid 2024 this all changed for the refugees of the Fascist invading country that is targeting innocent children on a daily basis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    It was Europe showing solidarity with an attack on a European country by an authoritarian government and providing support for the people of that country.

    The future is for russia to back down and accept a ceasefire and terms for peace which will allow the people of Ukraine who have emigrated to return home, if they wish. It will likely result in EU membership for Ukraine and will give Ukraine all of the free movement and trade benefits of being in the EU (as well as responsibilities for standards for human rights, reducing corruption, environmental standards etc, all things that russia has stood against under its authoritarian leader).

    Your argument is all over the place, you started off berating another poster for donating to Ukraine and are now on an anti-immigrant spiel. Continued war leads to emigration, russia "winning" will lead to a lot more emigration, get your own narrative in the right place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,638 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Many people were working under the assumption that the war might last for a relatively short period of time. If you had told anyone in February 2022 it would be still going at full pelt four years later, they would have been taken aback. Millions of Ukrainian people (perhaps 6m currently) being displaced abroad for many years is not something could have been envisaged back then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - please take the discussion of state support for Ukranian refugees to the immigration thread. Please don't use terms like "pesky parasitic refugees" there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    So is Trump gonna clarify his comments about Ukraine targeting Putins residence or we all just move on and forget it??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Trump clarifies nothing. He just mutters and forgets.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    From Denys Davydov on telegram:

    Trump called Kellogg an "idiot" for supporting Ukraine — NYT

    The US President flew into a rage because his then-special envoy, Keith Kellogg, publicly called Zelensky a courageous leader and supported Ukraine, writes The New York Times.

    According to the publication, Trump removed Kellogg from his position after a dispute and replaced him with his friend Steve Whitkoff, although he later admitted that he "doesn't understand anything about Russia and negotiations".

    NYT quotes their conversation. Kellogg tried to explain to Trump that Zelensky is fighting for the country's survival and compared him to Lincoln.

    This made Trump angry, and he later removed Kellogg from his post. Later, when talking about this conversation with other advisers, he angrily called Kellogg an "idiot".

    Keith Kellogg what a legend. Unfortunately nothing is going to get between Putin and his buddy. All Zelenski can do is keep praising Trump and keep agreeing to a ceasefire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Even if the war stopped today- the damage Putin has done to Russia will be felt for generations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭macraignil


    More stuff is burning in putin's terrorist state with oil storage on fire in Rybinsk and oil refining infrastructure in Tuapse port also burning again.

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    Will support for putin's terrorist state continue from India and China if he can't keep shipping them cheap oil?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,609 ✭✭✭✭josip


    India's dealings with Russia are purely financial/transactional.

    China will continue to keep Russia in the war regardless of the cost because of its own geopolitical aspirations and because it can afford it.

    Post edited by josip on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    My own guess is that Chinese support for Russia will only go so far. Once the cost outweighs the benefit, they won’t try as hard.

    The war is currently a gravy train for Beijing and they have little interest in seeing it end. However, eventually the Russians will run out of money and resources to give them. By then China will be no less off if Russia are defeated in Ukraine. If anything, it would likely suit them plenty at that stage for the central government to collapse and for them to send «Peacekeepers» into the neighbouring Russian Oblasts or «Republics» to increase their influence there and to prevent refugees flooding into China proper.

    It’s not the Cold War anymore, China are really only in this for what they can get out of it, and thereafter for what will keep them safe afterwards.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    An elite veteren Ukrianian military thats hungry to outsource it's experience for hardware is something all her enemies should fear especially the Chinese.



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