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Five years on, what did COVID teach you?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭daithi7


    Exactly, I'm 💯 not an anti vaxxer, I totally believe in a science & data backed approach, and believe many of the lockdown measures may have been somewhat necessary for their stated reasons & the unstated ones e.g. to not overrun our A&E & critical health care access systems, etc, etc, etc

    Though as we know many were clumsy & badly handled and lead to more deaths instead of less e.g. moving healthcare staff & patients (many infected with covid 19) to long term nursing homes, care centres etc, etc,

    However, having reviewed the excess death data previously and this correlating with what you're stating about this data above, this official report's claims look & sound like complete bogus imho.

    I just wish this report was subject to proper peer review and was rigorously challenged tbh. Because it reads in outline like an institutional CYA exercise , and total bs imho.

    Lines like "The NCRI said that cancer diagnoses dropped sharply by 27% in early 2020 when the pandemic began, as Covid-19 disrupted GP visits, hospital appointments and screening services." simply do not correlate with the headline claim that there was no increase in excess deaths from cancer. This is not likely imho.

    We know excess deaths went up in the years during & after covid & lockdown, healthcare institutions & specialities need to fully acknowledge & learn from this to fully adapt better public healthcare and overall responses before the next pandemic hits.

    P.s. and there is a high likelihood of another (flu) pandemic in our lifetimes imho . Hopefully MRNA development & vaccine administration & take up, and healthcare responses and measures will improve to address these pandemic(s) more quickly & more effectively next time....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭bladespin


    And yet, you're still clinging on to it, mental scarring there maybe? Maybe not? You'd be in the distinct minotiry who don't feel some sort of loss due to it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Not clinging onto anything, just responding to a nonsense line that was spouted as if it was a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭bladespin


    You're unique so, fair play, everyone else lost something, even if it was just a part of thier life.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    That is not what you said, you said "we all carry some sort of scar from it" which is completely and factually untrue.

    You can hold on to your bitterness over it if you want to, just don't be jealous that not all of us are the same as you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭bladespin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I've kept up the hand hygiene as strongly as during covid and maybe its that - or a combination of that plus some lingering coronavirus cross-immunisation from the vaccine - but I'm getting less colds for definite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just remember norovirus vomiting bug in circulation at the moment and hand sanitizer works on most viruses but less effective on it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Thanks! A good ole soap and water is fairly effective against norovirus. Had a dose of that during the summer - so hopefully still some lingering immunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Hand washing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,563 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭sliabh 1956


    The anti vaxers said that we would never have the same freedoms ever again. Cant say I notice any pre covid Freedoms not available to me today. Poor John Waters still is distraught over the whole Covid shutdown. The Government had to do what it had to do because it was an unknown epidemic. Anyway we all have moved on with our lives except the scaremongers they still cant admit they called it wrong you would feel pity for them really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    I found the lockdowns great for a while. No commute, able to spend quality time with kids, no rushing to activities..

    Lots of days on the beach and chilling out. I thought it was fantastic. Quality family time trumps everything.

    Saying all that, I was delighted when things opened up too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    the government didn’t do what it had to do (pushing the people from hospital into nursing homes), it ignored the data and hid behind Nphet, it’s quite clear now how useless & spineless the Government were, the damage they done is incredible. We did not need all the lockdown and the damage that caused. You might not see the damage depending on where you were in life, that’s not to say it never happened.

    They completely failed at saving the lives they told us we had to, much more concerned at preaching about how the anti vaxers and far right were going to kill us all their mouth breathing.

    Leo tried in fairness, them that hid at home went to town on him though, should have stood his ground as he was correct. Compete and utter lunacy gripped a lot of people and still has a hold of some. Sad to see people still wearing masks in the fresh air, not sure what they think is going to happen if they don’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Avon8


    I'm not saying some of the lunatics on the anti lockdown fringe were correct whatsoever, but your last sentence is exactly what they'd say about you also

    A zero covid strategy was pushed by lots of posters here, lots of the general population and a number of our more populist political parties. Its proven to be one of the more disastrous policies in history. You don't see any of those people admitting they were wrong either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Bredabe


    How fast the crafty types were turning their business from eg specialist wedding dresses to making masks,

    my fav being that I could advertise my fav charities on a daily basis just be wearing my mask. Still wear my fav car rescue one when the endless building/painting/grass cutting starts.

    "Have you ever wagged your tail so hard you fell over"?-Brod Higgins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,575 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    You know that wearing masks is to protect others, not yourself? So people with colds or whatever who are wearing masks are helping you, not themselves.



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