Tesla Talk 2

I'd say rural Irish roads are many, many times easier for a FSD system compared to crazy European city centre traffic 😂

The FSD ride along demos in France and Germany this month have been extended by 3 months into next year. Already everywhere booked out. Switzerland and Denmark have been announced for Q1 2026. Who knows, they might do Ireland in a few years time 😁

What happened with Tesla was that they had the courage to throw away all the software twice before starting again with the current implementation plan and the 2024+ AI4 hardware finally has enough oomph and camera quality to accommodate it.

It really seems to work this time after about 5 years of hard work, and they have had the benefit of almost unlimited material to teach the AI how to drive under any conditions.

There's also an anti-Tesla undercurrent in the FSD commentary as well.

Not an anti-Musk undercurrent necessarily (that's fairly new in the broader scheme of things), but a very detectable disdain for the products, the company, and - more acutely recently - the buyers who choose their brand.

Definitely linked to the progression aspect mentioned above, but there's more to it at the same time.

Same few posters too.

Musk-aside there is an undercurrent of disdain, unrelated to CEO personally.

Not quite. The disdain comes mostly from folks that would never in a million years have bought anything remotely interesting.

claiming an anti-Tesla undercurrent in this thread is just lazy imho. We’re all car fans, we have that in common or we wouldn’t be here. It’s more like a growing indifference to the constant lying and stringing everyone along.

Tesla have talked about FSD for over a decade, and were no closer to seeing it in Ireland than a decade ago.

I’ve had an m3 years ago and loved it; we have 2 M3’s in my immediate family, recommended by me, and the current €37.4k M3H is the best value car for sale in Ireland imho, ICE or EV.

A decade on, we’re still years away from FSD being regulated for sale in Ireland in reality, and now Musk claims they’re going straight to level 4.
thankfully the grown-ups at the regulator can remind him of his insurance liability with level 4.

And that’s before we add all the competitors FSD systems into the mix, and some of the bigger ones do level 2 better than Tesla.

https://x.com/i/status/2000243989036110108

Video in above link. Here a still from the video. No people in any of the seats

After spending some time on the roads over the weekend I'm prepared to say than often times the safest place for the driver would be in the boot, whether their car supports autonomic driving or not.

L4 and even L3 while the car is in control means the OEM is liable. This is already the case and has been for quite some time. Wake up! 😂

To be frank I'll be shocked if Ireland was going to be even on the first 50% of EU where it's approved. But it's coming to other EU countries and will be cool to experience it abroad on holidays in the future and maybe eventually over here too.

It is available. But not in Ireland of course 😂 We are always years behind the action

To be clear, I would be happy to just to get the American standard L2 FSDs, i.e. happy to supervise. To be stuck with just the old Autosteer here from 2020 sucks.