Mass shooting on Bondi Beach

It can be targeted at people from specific countries though. I think thats what most people would suggest .

I work in financial services there are a list of countries described as countries of concern if money or a customer is linked to any of them (place of birth, address etc) extra checks must be done before we can deal with the funds or customers. This is not racist or prejudiced its just good business practice ,same should apply with immigration.

There have been virtually no such gun attacks by Muslims in Europe in the last 2-3 years. There have been several mass shooting events during that period alright, but invariably involving disturbed individuals going on shooting rampages at schools / universities and the like.

Thanks. Agree on the rubbish, this not a local incident not a global incursion.

Unfortunately as the day going on more stories are coming out. A friends brother was non-fatally injured. I suspect anyone with ties will be connected to victims somehow.

Death toll is 16. Including a 10 year old girl, two rabbis, a French tourist, a photographer. Many babe not yet released.

People are making assumptions about the man without knowing anything about him.

Many people emigrate from muslim countries to western countries because they do not want to live in an oppresive situation and want a better life for their families.

Time travel being impossible, there is no solving it.

You’re countering your own point here.

Multiple people have infact blamed Islam as being responsible, a “religion of peace”, all Muslims should be exported, etc.

The hero counters that rhetoric.
That doesn’t imply that there has never been a radical Muslim extremist. so not sure what you think had collapsed instantly

If you are using 1 Muslim doing a good deed as a sign everything is ok, there isn't an issue with Muslim faith , how dare you blame it for this (as some have) , can't you apply the opposite and point out that the mass shooters being muslim immediately contradicts this view and that the mass shooters outnumbered the good Muslim from yesterdays attack.

Most people aren't looking for every Muslim to be banned from the west however they are pointing out that having excessive levels of immigration from a group which has a sizeable number who despise the west is not a good idea and is asking for trouble and perhaps immigration policy needs to reflect this and be careful about who is allowed to ive in western countries.

Australian gun laws are very strict. Similar to, if not stricter that Ireland.

Multiple firearms would mean firearms for different purposes. Different type of shotguns, a target rifle, a hunting rifle, a few different calibres, etc.

The more firearms you have the more frequently you have demonstrate you attending you target gun each year.

Sure, but I already explained that I was NOT referring to targeted killings, but to terror attacks designed to terrorise everyone by the fact that they target anonymous civilians and often just random people.

Well that’s just patently untrue

There was such an attack in Dublin as recently as July and the alleged perpetrator has been charged with terrorism offences

I won’t be going into any further details as it is before the courts but I’ve no doubt you know exactly what attack I’m referring to

I think it’s more that people have got used to it: a lot more are detected before they happen, like the foiled plot to attack a Christmas market in Germany, (the same day as the Bondi attack IIANM) and even those that happen don’t get the same news coverage unless there are multiple injuries.

It would be foolish to think it’s a “dead” ideology.

What’s curious is that apparently it’s a good thing to insist on the religion of the hero, but a Very Bad Thing to even mention the religion of the killers.

Why is that?

This is just an attempt to blame all Jews without saying so outright. The idea that Muslim extremists would listen to and believe Netanyahu on this one thing is such transparent nonsense that I don’t think you really believe it yourself.

They believe it’s all Jews because they want to believe it. If Netanyahu had said that Jews who lived outside Israel were betraying Israel, do you seriously think attacks like this or the Manchester synagogue would not have happened? 🤯

Nobody has said all Muslims are violent. What they are saying is there are enough Muslims in each generation who clearly hate the west and want to kill random people to bring in a caliphate of some sort for there to be a risk which increases the more Muslims there are in a western country. Of course it’s less of a problem in Muslim countries because they are authoritarian hellholes - which does have the advantage that they can just disappear people into prison on the smallest pretext.

But in the west if we want to maintain a relatively free society, we are going to have to find a better way to identify those Muslims who do want to be violent for the sake of Islam, or else live with repeated terror attacks. I can see why some people think expelling all Muslims is the best way to deal with this, although personally I think that, like Americans with their guns, it’s too late for that now anyway.

The dealings that Australian police had with the younger of these two murderers points up how hopelessly ill equipped our open societies are to identify people who want to destroy them. In most of the Middle East he would no doubt have been imprisoned without trial, or maybe after a show trial. More than a dozen people including a 10 year old would have been saved though.