Orange is the new Burke

tis more of tragedy than anything, a family that requires a lot of professional help, care and support

They will get their reward when they pass, that essentially is the reasoning. No different to being embraced by a load of virgins when you blow yourself up to kill a few heathens.

Ruining your actual life in dedication to a perceived/indoctrinated one is indeed quite sad.

Oh my god!

Still no end to his work dismissal situation. No surprise there. It's impossible to reason with him. And did his family have to get involved in a work dispute? I hope there will be progress with criminal contempt of court from now on. That seems to be the only way forward at this stage to bring an end to this mess. Enoch is someone who wants everyone to obey him and his version.

I would have been surprised if they had made a determination today. In the interest of fair procedure and due process, there is a need to consider any point that may have been made by Enoch (as unhinged or nonsensical as they might have been). In addition, if upholding the dismissal decision is a ultimately the outcome, the panel would need to ensure that the decision is legally sound, given that in all likelihood, it would be subject to future challenge before the WRC.

Plus, if the family were present, which I don't understand - if I managed to land myself in discipline in my job, I can bring a colleague or union rep as a witness, I can't bring my family along - but that aside, if the determination was to uphold the dismissal and was made in front of family, they would likely have gone entirely bonkers before the board (considering their past behaviour in court). So, issuing a decision in writing to Enoch Burke at a later stage, even if it's only in a week or two's time, might have been an effort at keeping good order in the room whilst the hearing was taking place.

That makes a lot of sense and thank you.

That is intimidation pure and simple from them to the members of the appeals.

I wonder if this is the worst civil case ever in Ireland?

I think if it was anyone else facing a legal situation they would get proper legal advice and put their head down low for a while. Legal advice would be to help migitate their situation. EB never did that. His family who are solicitors can't really be trusted. They are too close to him and too emotional about it. They just keep making it worse. It's never ending from them. They want to bully the school and the courts to confirm with their beliefs.

I watched a little bit more of last night's video but I can't stomach it all.

Didn't Ireland bring in hate laws and would this come in under hate laws? Because they have severe opposition against transgender ideology and it's prolonged and intense. Martina was ranting as if transgender is a contagious disease and she was ranting to parents not to tolerate this in schools.

It's all so wrong. There's nothing wrong with being transgender and transgender people are not hurting anyone.

Thousands of patriots out in support of Enoch yesterday...well maybe a couple of dozen.

https://x.com/i/status/2000327786549084561

But we mustn't forget the huge support 'standing with him' online. It was just probably a bit too chilly to leave the house.

Yes a day of rest. Apart from the Santa's grottos and Xmas markets and other commercial events that must be attended to honour our lord. Enoch can wait.

In today's world a sure sign someone isn't a patriot is when they go around calling themselves that. Just trying to give their lives meaning and relevance.

The real patriots in Ireland are the fire fighters, doctors and nurses, those working for charity's and food banks, community volunteers etc. In other words all those engaging in activities that the other 'patriots' never go near.

So every concerned citizen is a racist?

Every god fearing person is a right wing nut?

Your views are as narrow as Burkes.

Again you have a quip on the God fearing aspect.

I never said anything about the Burkes, just the way you worded your post, as if being any of the elements you mentioned suddenly makes you a racist or a right wing nut. There are also loads of people who are anti establishment in a democratic way, it's a democratic right to want the establishment changed too.

The Burkes even have a democratic right to their views. That's not what he is in jail for. All he has to do is not trespass at Wilson hospital school. He is democratically free to preach and promote his views in a lawful way.