Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

1754755757759760859

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Why wait to get anti drone tech? Surely we could purchase several units of currrent tech now? It's used in Ukraine already. Longer term we should try to manufacture drones and anti drone tech here perhaps in partnership with Ukraine or Turkey?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,612 ✭✭✭✭josip


    An amphibious assault of Galway is not so far-fetched. Russian sympathisers have held part of the Clare coastline for the past 10 years and our armed forces have made no attempt to dislodge them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Lots of them are already working and paying tax and starting businesses here already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Some on the Hard Left who now say this is scaremongering were also telling us in 2022 that predictions Russia would invade Ukraine were scaremongering.

    RTE said today our economy makes us a "tempting target". Looking at the Russian oligarchs seizing businesses and infrastructure and farmland in Ukraine, theres no reason to believe that might not happen in invasions of western countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Just scaremongering to increase budget.

    Russia has no intention of attacking or invading.

    They'll keep advancing by attrition.

    The Dnipro river is a natural barrier that I don't think they'll cross.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Le Pen in France, Farage in the UK and Trump in the White House. All 3 will be pro Russian and will allow Russia to take what they want. A land bridge to Kaliningard, which will cut off the Baltic states.

    That is a possibility in the next few years...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/11/europe/ukraine-attacks-russian-energy-intl-cmd

    Interesting article on Ukraine oil attacks.

    The glut of global oil supply is helping Ukraine.

    The EV transition will help Ukraine long term also.

    I think we're very close to peak global oil demand so prices will continue to drop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    For years EU especially had ties to Russia especially Germany with gas deals and cross border pipelines. Commerce and mutal interest were to keep the peace. Only a madman would give all that up and attack a neighbour. Unfortunately Russia has such a madman. Eurpoe has no choice but to defend its interests even without US back up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Entire Russian column wiped out in Pokrovsk. Scores of vehicles burning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭macraignil


    All three of your political clowns have no control over Ukraine which still fights on against putin's terrorist state with the help of European countries that understand that stopping terrorism is a vital part of life and prosperity in Europe. Air defense systems from Germany are already proving effective in stopping putin's terrorist state attacks and Trump's pro putin policy's will undermine future exports for the arms industry in the USA which is showing itself as an unreliable supplier when the electorate there sees fit to vote in a pea brained self serving compulsive liar. The other clowns you mentioned have not even got into a political position of power where their pro putin ideology could help the expansionist ideologies of putin's terrorist state.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    EU is almost completely free of Russian oil and gas.

    I think it'll just be Hungary and Slovakia.

    Hungary has an election next year so Orban might be gone.



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Orban will be like matted wolfhound fur on velcro it'll be interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    Ascthe saying goes ‘A picture paints a THOUSAND words’ . In this case this saying should be upgraded to ‘ A picture paints 10,000 words’ for more accuracy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    All discussions on the war and progress of it , who is now winning , who has the initiative have constantly come down to the Russians are winning - even if it is only the proverbial field or metre or two per day. The statement Is never analysed or challenged .

    For example :-

    (1) the amount of losses of men and equipment is never mentioned - one loses more in progressing than the army defending

    (2) there is no mention of the progress Ukr is making re knocking a lot of infrastructure of Ru facilities out of action / severely damaging same and its immediate/shortterm/longterm effect on life/economy

    (3) The psychological impact of the war on both sides , the reason why it is being fought and what this is impacting on the ability to recruit and those soldiers ‘working on both sides

    (4) as the war goes on the ability of Ru to adequately ‘service’ the frontlines with soldiers , equipment , clothes , food, evacuation of injured. Must be more difficult for Ru as it is in ‘ alien/foreign/unfilimiar ‘territory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    Drones could be provided by Ireland as non military equipment ie to be used in Ukr ONLY to provide non military goods(food) m medicine and other services to communities that are isolated , felt threatened, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 304 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    Do you have any more information on this, josip?

    With Farage in power in the UK, our deluded belief that the UK will come charging to our rescue could very well be shattered. Any defence contract which may be in place now could be ripped up overnight. Indeed, why should the UK or an EU country try to help us and risk the lives of their military when our State makes it crystal clear that we would not do the same for them?

    Such as the scandalously weak state of our defence capabilities - that is to say a complete lack of any - that the Russians could simply rock up to a beach on the West coast in a couple of clapped-out oil tankers and offload a few thousand armed, marauding rapists. That would be sufficient to overrun the country. We - the plebs, that is - wouldn't even know they were here until they reached Dublin. Our masters, on the other hand, would have gotten wind of this and would already be jetting their way to whichever nation would take them in to form their 'government in exile'. We would be left to fend for ourselves like lambs against wolves.

    To not at least acknowledge that this could happen is madness. And with each passing day of insanity emerging from America it becomes less and less unlikely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Why are they still fighting there ? We were told that they had already taken Pokrovsk and were already on the move to the north of it ? 😏

    Meanwhile, Russia is suing Euroclear and the EU has decided to indefinitely immobilise about 210bn Euro of Russian assets, meaning they can't be used for example in the US/Russia plan where the US gets access to the funds.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/russian-central-bank-says-eu-plans-use-its-assets-are-illegal-2025-12-12/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    Trump’s hotel in Dunbeg in County Clare should be of great assistance to the Russians if it ever wants a staging post in Ireland to ‘begin operations’ here.!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    Ru can attack Ireland and even cause MAJOR DISRUPTION to the economy without setting a soldiers foot on the ground or the use of even one drone eg via cyber attacks , ICT attacks, undersea cable cutting. So——- .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Long tweet .. but worth the read.

    America's withdrawal from Europe:



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    If you take a step back, it's actually a bit weird for the US to be providing the defences of Europe.

    For the US to be sending its weapons and people.

    And for Europe who become dependent on a foreign support.

    I think it will reduce over future years, probably regardless of whether Trump is in power or somebody else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    The US wanted to dominate the globe and enjoyed the benefits that come from that. There will be many unforeseen consequences firm the US retreating into its shell, cutting itself off from the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,376 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Hard disagree.

    You might be familiar with the expression "Britannia rules the waves". It's a reference to the post-Napoleonic nineteenth century when Britain was the global hegemon. The US' population in 1800 was about 6 million. It jumps to 75 million by 1900. In that time, Great Britain controls the seas and acts as the world's policeman though much less than the US did post-WW2.

    World War 2 broke said hegemony and handed that position to the United States which promptly used it to build a postwar world in favour of free trade, capitalism and US hegemony. Can't have all of those things if there is a plethora of rival naval, land, air and nuclear powers running around, can you?

    This is why it stinks to hear Americans whining about having to shoulder the burden of Western defence. They literally built this world. Harold Wilson sought American help for a British nuclear deterrent and they refused for a very long time, conceding only when Wilson said he'd have to pull British troops from garrison duties to pay for it. Of all the countries in the West, only France has shown any spine when dealing with the Americans.

    The postwar period made the United States the wealthiest country in history. It did so because that was the goal. They poached the best talent, made many of the rules and drove the creation of institutions such as the UN and the WTO. Now that the Western capitalist model is cracking up, they whine about immigration that they allowed and European weakness that they demanded.

    At the end of the day, you can't be world policeman without the force to back up your claim.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    It's not really weird, it's how imperial powers have worked for centuries.

    The fact they are actively dismantling their own soft power worldwide is baffling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    It is weird, but logical. But providing military support via NATO, the USA keeps European countries mostly contained in Europe. The US has hundreds (750) military bases around the world. The EU not so much (the UK has the majority of overseas outposts, afaik). By having the military control over Europe, the USA can essentially dictate the external policy of Europe, preventing it from engaging in military operations in other countries unless the USA permits it. What did the EU do in the Middle East? Syria? Ok, there were some French planes involved by Libya, but that's it.

    Now if the EU is left on its own, it will have to take its security seriously. New expanded military capabilities will provide the means for the external power projection (i.e. to wage wars with countries the EU wants to influence). And if the EU wants to decide to do a regime change in some country, this may significantly affect American business interests.

    Therefore what Trump's handlers want is 1) to stop providing military support to the EU, and 2) to stop the EU from becoming a coherent military power by breaking up the EU.

    Logical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's a bit of a joke when a Republican politician was recently complaining about EU SAFE funds for defence spending excluding US companies.

    Talk about wanting your cake and eating it too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    Nonsense. Points 1&2 are brought up constantly in reports on the war from any vaguely reliable source. The bottom line is always: Russia is winning, but at great cost, just as Ukraine is defending valiantly, also at great cost. These things are not mutually exclusive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Putin is already fracturing NATO without firing a shot. There've been drone and air incursions as well as attacks on undersea cables, again all without repercussion. I think that's partly what's being alluded to. Basically undermine the social fabric and cohesion of European NATO members (Trump a very useful ally in this regard) and watch it half crumble from within. Can then pick off bordering states if/ when it suits. Classic Putin modus operandi.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Screenshot_2025-12-12-13-07-01-906_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg G79nrbfW0AENzO0.jpeg

    I thought Pokrovsk had fallen....hmmm



Advertisement
Advertisement