General British politics discussion thread

no Pro Palestine protests have been banned or prevented.
the UK is not supplying equipment to the IDF

Palestine Action were targeting UK arms factories, defence bases and people going about their normal every day lives. Stopping them doing that is very much in the UKs interests

Why were Macabi fans banned, but AS Roma fans allowed to come to the UK without a second thought and why were the reports from Dutch police misrepresented?

bomb those holding hostages into submission and slaughter tens of thousands of innocent people in the process. Bomb all the civilian infrastructure and displace millions

I agree, it is extreme but that is what they are actively facilitating with Israel

It's astounding to me how obsessed some folks are with the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Poll after poll in both the UK and Ireland shows us that this is a minority issue for the vast majority of people. There is a hardcore few who are dedicated, though, so it leaps in priority.

in what ways are they actively facilitating it

Providing weapons to Israel

Providing leadership training for Israeli miliary

Providing intelligence to Israel

Providing political cover to Israel

Supporting Israel throughout the whole genocide

Justifying Israel actions

Banning opposition to Israeli actions

What should they do to prevent it?

Stop doing the above

Expel the Israeli ambassador

Sanction those from the Israeli government wanted by the ICC

Confirm that those wanted by the ICC will be arrested

Apply pressure to the US to reign Israel in

The current government were more than happy to keep the draconian anti protest laws brought in by the last Tory government. In fact they made them even more restrictive.

what pro Palestine demonstrations were forcefully prevented? It seems like every time I go to London these days there are thousands demonstrating and they are allowed to proceed perfectly fine.
as for Palestine action, they were due to be proscribed before they broke in to an raf base. Prior to that they had already broken into a Thales factory in Glasgow, attacked guards and police at an Elbit factory in Bristol and caused criminal damage and abused staff at an insurance company. I agree proscription is over the top, but **** em. They deserve to be locked up and have their assets seized.
Elbit and Rafael are part of the global arms industry. They need components to produce the vast amount of arms they produce for NATO countries that are strengthening their military’s thanks to two dangerous clowns in Moscow and Washington. Every single item they buy from Europe will be sent under license, which will state the end user. If that end user is the IDF then the parts cannot be shipped.
like I said in an earlier post about Starmer, this conflict is being used by his critics as a stick to beat him with.
by the way, you should keep up with the news better, it seems the Dutch police are denying the claims made by Weat Midlands police, who also conveniently ignored similar intelligence about Young Boys fans. No one seems to mind they were allowed to visit Birmingham though. I wonder why b

palestine action only engaged in low level criminal damage for which there are laws to deal with, there was no intention to proscribe them as a terrorist organisation until they showed the british public that the ministry of defense are incapable of securing military bases.
the british government then made up a load of claims against them to justify proscribing the spray painters and low level criminals as terrorists.
a couple of arms factories being put out of action for a short period isn't really going to have any real time effect on anything to do with nato since components and all else are made in a few different countries as back up, whereas it would have a reasonable effect on the israely military.
palestine action have no assets to seaze and to seaze assets for protesting is a breach of human rights law.

Proscribing Palestine Action as "terrorist" (and subsequently labeling anyone who marches with them as such) has to be one of the most absurd things that I've seen a British government do in a long time. When you put a protest group who have, admittedly, been guilty of some relatively low level criminal damage on the same list as Al Qaeda who were responsible for flying two civilian airliners into the WTC and ISIS who murdered journalists, amongst many other appalling acts, you not only demean the word "terrorist", you diminish the entire list itself.

But one has to ask themselves who ultimately benefits when a nation silences domestic protest against a foreign nation's genocidal atrocities against their own neighbours?

The much lauded Suffragettes carried out multiple arson attacks, bombings, physical assaults and even killed several people.

it doesn’t really make much if you consider Palestine action to be terrorist or not at best they are carrying out criminal activities and the net result would be the same, other than various police forces having to arrest bored pensioners. Unless you are suggesting the government should turn a blind eye and allow them to continue to carry out criminal damage to private and public property?

sorry, what protest has been silenced? Thousands are marching on a regular basis without any incidents.

No one, not one single person, has been arrested for protesting the genocide in Gaza.

how can it be a narrative if it’s a fact?

Did existing laws exist to deal with the criminal activities?