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Getting around Galway

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Contra flow cycle lanes improve permeability and make cycling more appealing as a mode of transport. which reduces car traffic in the city. The area in question is close to at least 5 schools and a primary route into the inner city from most residential areas west of the river. Seems like a no brainer. Pedestrians can manage to navigate the current two-way road system (which includes people on bicycles lest we forget) so unless there's strong evidence that we'll see a big increase in bike related accidents with this change, it seems like an obvious and beneficial thing to include.

    Plus it might stop things being held up by High Court injunction…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,112 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Our FF TD, unclear if his party are in govt the way he goes on. Though sometimes I ponder the IF Grainne Seoige had the seat for the past year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    True. Design is crucial. Making streets one way can often lead to increased motor speeds, compare a wide one street like Forster St with Eglinton St and is two way as an example of OFF Peak traffic speeds.

    As a real pedestrian advocate - that would be a crucial point to make at the design stage and putting in contra flow cycling can narrow streets to create this effect, based on what City Council are doing now in a Suburban area like Ballybane & Castlepark Road I think they are finally starting to get this and realise all the bad mistakes they have done in the past and are going to start to try and undo them now piece by piece. Its still baby steps for them though - NEW Pedestrian crossing been built at the Salmon Weir is a correction. Should have gone in when the Droicead an Dochas was been built only a couple of years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    In fairness when he was a Cllr - he was one of the few that I ever seen on the bus or waiting at the bus stops on a regular basis.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    He still does as TD! He uses the buses here - it is great to see him leading by example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Does the Council really expect motorists to trek 2.7km or 3.7km ?! 😛

    Commuters than [sic] then continue onto the city on the public bus or on foot, avoiding the stress and cost of finding parking in the city centre.  https://www.galwaycity.ie/news/2025/free-weekend-parking-for-galway-city-christmas-park-and-commute



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Does the Council really want people to use the P&R? Nah, they need people to sign up to the NEW Parking app



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,032 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    No.

    The council have given details of the regular bus routes, and then details of the walking distance and routes.

    Because they know some people will ask how far it is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    She rejected the suggestion that the jump in fines could be explained by (5,300) motorists “parking on footpaths”. “Are you suggesting that in 2025 all of them (fines) would have been people parking on footpaths?” she enquired.

    This is soooo WWN. Jeez, the Cllr needs to go for a walk and observe how the City is failing pedestrians



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Interesting to see that there's new parking byelaws on the way. The old ones didn't allow for the app based parking that's been in operation for the last year or so since the Council made a hames of the contract with the Pay & Display machine provider.

    Having reviewed the existing Byelaws, the only valid way to park in a Pay & Display area is either by a permit (residents, visitors or carers) or a Pay & Display ticket issued by an appropriate Pay & Display Parking Machine. The problem is that the machine is quite tightly defined as a physical device which spits out paper:

    “appropriate pay & display parking ticket machine” means a pay and display parking ticket machine located on the public road or car park in which the vehicle is parked or on an adjacent public road

    This begs the question as to what becomes of any money that a person spent in app/Payzone/phone parking in circumstances where it could never have led to a Pay & Display ticket in conformity with the Byelaws being issued. I'd be looking for this money back. If I was an enterprising reporter for the City Tribune, I'd FOI how much the Council took in via these methods. This would give an idea as to how much money has been taken in for tickets that may not be worth the paper they aren't printed on.

    Fun aside, it appears that the only way to pay for parking under the existing Byelaws is by coins (which we all knew and generally accepted for years) or by credit card. Tough luck to anyone using a debit card or paper money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    GalwayBeo will have this as a remarkable must-read exclusive revelation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Ballybane & Castlepark very very wide carraigeways that are been narrowed are also getting reported on in the INDO

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/galway/news/no-margin-for-error-how-a-galway-roads-new-layout-leaves-just-8cm-between-passing-buses/a1765846277.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,032 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    With not a bus-lane in sight. Pure genius design.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,523 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    The Ballybane works are terrible.

    Such a large area of public land, with space to add in a bus and cycle lane down both sides. Instead they have moved a wall, painted a strip of road red, and called it a cycle lane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,112 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Speaking of great journalism, it seems Galway traffic is so bad, you can't even rob the place. 😄

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Factually incorrect, the road was not wide to have two bus lanes and two cycle lanes on its full length. The bike is separated from the road by a curb so it's not just painted road. At least be honest when criticising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    True, if I was designing it 100% it would have certainly bus priority measures built into the scheme.

    There is potential opportunity for a BUS Gate at McHugh Avenue as is been done at Cnoc an Óir,West of the Corrib. Would allow some "bypassing" of the car traffic mess for City buses in the Mervue area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    TD Connolly says a decision has been made on GCRR, and press notifications should follow shortly.

    the anticipation!



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Oh that's interesting, please drop a link or something when it happens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    this Friday I guess then?
    seems to be the pattern: https://www.pleanala.ie/en-ie/lists



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭at1withmyself


    The new pedestrian crossing is working now down at the cathedral.

    However it's really slow reaction time and after waiting more then 2 minutes a large group just crossed before the green man appeared, I looked back and it did eventually go green but the reaction time needs to be quicker there I think otherwise it's no use.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I haven't seen this mentioned and while it's a long way from any work it's very extensive in scope - I'm unsure it will survive planning etc.
    https://consult.galwaycity.ie/en/consultation/notice-proposed-variation-no-3-galway-city-development-plan-2023-2029



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,032 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Did you means a specific thing in scope of that?

    The first on the list is higher density residential at Murrough - which was on GBFM just two days ago:
    https://www.galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/plan-to-transform-murrough-in-renmore-into-coastal-community-with-thousands-of-new-homes-217507

    The 2nd is Cuan an Rois in Rosshill, which says it's starting development this year - there are ads on several real-estate websites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Signalised Pedestrian Crossing at the Canal badly needed on University Road - will be part of Cross City Bus Connects but really should have been part of the active travel scheme that put in lights and zebra crossings from the Claddagh to Ward's Shop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭GBXI


    Why don't they just do it now, it's such an obvious need for 20 years at this stage. Also, can we go with zebra everywhere except the biggest of junctions so you don't have 30+ people waiting to cross the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,447 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    There is a reason why Council put the crossing where it is, but I cannot remember the thought train of the car-centric Council 😔

    Though, last Nov Derek Pender, Director of Services Roads, said that his vision was for a pedestrianised city. Go figure



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,505 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Perhaps when the Bus Gate is installed on Salmon Weir this NEW one could be converted to a ZEBRA? But as far as I know its only a 12h bus gate and will be open to general traffic from 19h00→ 07h00 so perhaps it will stay as is now?
    I would take out the existing controlled crossing on University Road and move it to the "Wards Shop" location.



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