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Tesla Model 3 - V4.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    Started the car this morning. It had charged to 75% on a scheduled charge but there was a message on screen saying ‘unable to charge - maximum charge level reached’ - see attached. It’s reporting that the car can only be charged to 50% until resolved.

    Does anyone know what this means? Is it likely to be a big issue? It’s only a couple of months since I got the charging harness replaced- any link to that issue?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    This "could" be HV battery failure as a worse case.

    Faulty cable best case.

    Still under warranty?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    It's because you were listening to Coldplay.

    Seems that the HV battery is the most likely issue, but as you have had a harness replaced recently, it may just be that.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    General warranty up but still 4 years left on battery. That doesn’t sound good. I don’t know if there’s any link but I had noticed that the range had dropped a bit this year (max 350km even during summer) and if I extrapolated kWh hours used for a journey as reported ion the screen to 100% I was only getting 60kwh total capacity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    I won’t allow any ‘dissing’ of Coldplay🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭...Ghost...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    Had a quick look online and it seems this is not an uncommon issue and every case seemed to involve a replacement battery!

    This issue might partially explain my reduced range recently. I do a reasonably regular 350km each way trip.. A year ago I could comfortably complete that journey without charging so long as took it reasonably easy (approx 380km range). A couple of months back my estimated range for this trip was down to 336km .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,841 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Not exactly a bad thing if you end up getting some HV battery work done FOC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    You’re right in the sense that a new/refurbished battery would be superior to the current one and might provide a welcome recovery of lost range.

    However, while some might call it FUD, it does creates a bit of doubt about EV battery longevity. My L30 (I know it’s a L30 so no real surprise) battery has just collapsed following months or nursing it along with only 56% soh and basically spontaneously going into Turtle mode the moment I face towards a hill! However I didn’t expect a 4 year old model 3 with 106k km to follow suit! I’m going to be very bored listening to the I told you so from the quite a few people who thought I was a glutten for punishment to buy another EV after my Leaf experience.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Unfortunately these things happen. And they happen to all cars irrespective of the fuel choice.

    I’ve a G30 520d that got a recall notice today about the starter motors. Fire risk and warning me not to park it near my home. This after the fire risk EGR recall 2 years ago on the same car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    Oh I know. I’ve just replaced the L30 with an Ioniq 38 so I’m not giving up just yet! Now if that battery goes kaput as well…..



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 evftw


    Welcome to cold weather and L30. As for the Model 3: That's why there is a long warranty so that any defective components have time to fail before the warranty runs out. And unlike many other brands, as a Tesla customer, if necessary, you'll get a fully assembled and tested battery pack instead of new modules with various SOH dropped in your old pack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    Don’t talk to me about cold weather and L30! I haven’t been able to turn on the heat, other than to defog the windscreen, for a couple of years now!

    Glad to hear a positive testimonial from an owner. I’ve raised a service request and will see how it goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 evftw


    Personal experience just with the L30 woes, but our former '21 Model 3 had a charge port cable replaced after it had a series of no charging events, incidentally at cold weather only.

    Tesla warranty work is top notch in my opinion.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You are not guaranteed a range increase with a Tesla battery replacement, you may get an older pack than the car that is refurbished and just about the same range as the failed pack. Been there.

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    I sadly managed to roll over a very large dog yesterday. He came speeding from a house chasing 2 cyclist I was over taking. I was giving the cyclists a large clearance so no chance to avoid the dog.

    Dog sadly didn’t make it but went right under the car. I can’t see any damage underneath my car. Concerned the damage might not show up immediately. Is there any specific location I should be looking at under the M3 car that could be more susceptible?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Sorry to hear that but maybe just the plastic aero liners etc

    Obvious places like the bumper and the plastics.

    Have you got access to a ramp?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    TBH I was starting to consider selling it on early next year when the range was heading to low 300kms over last couple of months even with taking it very easy. For me that’s just not enough for a supposed 77kwh battery. I recently got an Ioniq 38kw which provides approx 280lm range from a battery half that size.

    If it turns out the battery has to be replaced and it doesn’t deliver an improved range then I’ll seriously consider coming up a couple of years with a rwd M3 which should have a better range and a more durable LFP battery.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    AwD?

    300 is very low!

    I do Dub to Letterkenny using about 52% (39 kWh) (240km).

    I do Dub to Courtown which is a higher speed journey, about 135km and uses 30% of the battery.

    2022 AWD with 167k on clock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    It’s a 2021 M3P with 106k km and over the last while its estimated range has been 330ish km which isn’t great. It may well be that the current reported problem with the battery has contributed to this low range so I’d be hopeful of an improvement if the battery has to be replaced.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Ok, that’s still very low. My 2020 M3P would do dub Belfast and back on one charge but in fairness not at 120, only at 110’ish. About 360km.

    The LR AWD I have here will do that trip with another 50km to spare.

    Your 21 car is a HP model so should be more efficient. Hopefully the battery has been degrading over time and the replacement gives you back the full range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    The other issue I have noticed is that if I extrapolate to 100% the kWh used (taken from main screen trip display) for a particular battery % used I’m only getting 60kwh for a full battery. Now I know that this screen only shows kWh used for driving but that seems very low for a full battery with a 77kwh net capacity.

    Just wondering what others might get from the same calculation?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yeah something there. I’d love to see the inner workings on how the efficiency is calculated too. I read on here all them time that Tesla “cheat” the efficiency rating in the car by not counting certain things.

    Is that confirmed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭creedp


    Read that in a few places but haven’t seen it confirmed anywhere. I have noted that the kWh consumed doesn’t seem to increase when parked and continuing to use hvac.

    Just going back to my particular issue, I took car for drive today to bring Soc down to 40% in order to see if the on screen message that the max charge level is restricted to 50% is correct. Car drove fine, didn’t seem any reduction in power. However, it was a real pita as there was a continuous loud bonging warning of the problem.

    In any case I plugged in this evening and nothing happened so car is effectively borked other than having enough Soc to get me to the service centre



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Scan My Tesla is a great App to view your battery if you do not want to go into the Service Menu

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭yermanthere


    @893bet , that's a rough day. And upsetting, but better than people getting hit. You made the right choice. Advanced driver training teaches to never swerve for animals, as it usually leads to a worse event. I'm sure the cyclists were glad you were there, God knows dogs intentions.

    Dog left private property so owners liable for your car damage. But tbh metal parts will beat organic parts every time. Not to be too graphic but spend 15 minutes at a pressure wash, and focus on underbody, wheel arches and suspension. I'd say the car is undamaged apart from a dent in the underbody.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Not suggesting that @893bet was at fault in any way, but it’s not always black and white. Sometimes the fault is squarely on the driver.

    A personal example is when we first got our dog (German Pointer), we were and still are careful to keep the garden gates closed, because she was very eager to get out when the door opened. A few days after we got her, a sales person knocked on the door. One of my kids opened the door and the dog ran out past them just as a courier was opening the gate. She ran out onto the road. A speeding car clipped her. Lucky for her, she got a broken tooth and fractured paw. She recovered, though it could have been much worse. Could have been a child.

    It wasn’t us being careless, it was unfortunate circumstances, but had the driver been driving safely, it wouldn’t have resulted in an accident. The driver stopped for a few seconds before driving off. Reckless!

    I’ve contacted the council multiple times over the years about traffic calming measures and never get a reply. They don’t give a shíte. It’s a cul-de-sac and cars regularly do 40-50 up and down the road with cars parked on both sides. A few years ago, a car missed a kid by inches and ended up on its roof. Driver claimed he was going slow! Yet the car was flipped. Absolute madness.

    Stay Free



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