Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

As I understand it, the ‘great replacement theory’ predicts that elites are intentionally importing immigrants so as to shore up electoral support, undermine western civilisation, or some other malign motive. I think we can dismiss that out of hand. But what the bogus theory predicts will happen is actually what is happening! - i.e. unprecedented levels of immigration undermining social cohesion. The Western establishment has been handed their response on a plate: they get to dismiss the great replacement theory as racist and delusional, and because it is so close to reality, they thereby discredit anyone warning legitimately about the effects of mass migration. And of course the media has no interest in challenging them on it.

I wish i could remember where I heard it, but some NGO-type immigrant was saying that it’s not a replacement because no one is being forced out; if anything, it’s a dilution. But that’s hardly any better! We’re supposed to just happily accept being diluted? (It’s also another example of deflection: replacement can just mean that western monoculture is being replaced by multiculturalism - that doesn’t mean anyone is being forced out).

Immigrants and their children don’t realise what it’s like to see their country’s demographics change radically. Perhaps the progressive language of ‘lived-experience’ could be used against them - they don’t have the lived-experienced of feeling increasingly alienated in the country they’ve known their whole lives. It’s gentrification at a national level, and we all know how much the left hates gentrification.

Think there's one or two knocking around from china, Pakistan etc as well Paul. They're not in your figures, are they ?

The next 20 countries are less than 12k each. The racists proposing the great replacement Theory don't do Maths. The simplle fact is the largest group of immigrants in Ireland are from the UK, and the majority of them are from Northern Ireland or are the Children or Grandchildren of Irish emigrants to the UK. There are less than 700k people in Ireland not born in the 26 counties (Including people like Saoirse Ronan and Joe McCarthy), and half a million of those are European, but you hear no-one complain about EU, UK or US immigrants. Ergo the entire complaint of the the anti-immigration lobby ignores the biggest immigrant community in Ireland, Why? Because that community is white and European.

Have you done income Tax returns for consultant surgeons from Pakistan Enircon? They pay the way for 50 to 100 US or EU citizens. Brown and black people are just as capable and often more so.

Have a single one of you read this report?

It's an unfortunate (stupid) title, but it's quite interesting

You tried to claim the 20% figure was made up by just picking the top 10 countries on the list forgetting there are more than 10 countries where immigrants come from, .Your figures are bullshit , the census confirms 20% of Irish residents were born outside of Ireland and this has almost certainly increased in the last few years.

Why are you doubling down on your claim when it was fairly easily debunked

The reason people dont have as much issue with European emigrants to Ireland is they almost all work and are well educated and dont look for special treatment .

Loads of statistics from around Europe prove that migration from other EU and OECD countries is a net benefit for the country but from outside OECD countries is a drain on the country.

The general script, not just on this but several issues, seems to be

-"It's not happening"

-"No one ever said its not happening, but it's only a handful of times"

-"Ok it's widespread but its hardly a big deal because x/y/z group also do bad things"

-"Why are you even noticing this you bigot!"

Anything rather than actually admit there's an issue.

Over 200 migrants who lied about their ages and were put in accommodation with children.

First and foremost that should be grounds for immediate cancellation of their asylum claim and then they should be booted out of here ASAP.

Laughable whataboutery.
Very few people in the whole country or in this thread have supported protesting outside IPAS centres. That doesn’t mean rules of the system can just be flouted and it’s grand.

The permissive attitude like yours to blatant abuse of the system is a large factor in the system being the shıtshow that it is and why the majority of people don’t think it’s working.

Wonderful if you like to live in a country that is overpopulated and has pollution issues .