DCC wants to rename Herzog Park

Only a vocal minority, who use social media and main stream media to propagate their tiresome tales, majority couldn't care less, including myself …

Nah nothing like that at all: Irish Jews were a tiny minority who were not running the country, imprisoning and killing anyone who disagreed with them, and yet there was still a pogrom and a boycott of Jews in Ireland.

It seems we "like" people who are more powerful than us, and hate the weaker ones, or just those seem to pose us no threat.

That's why Ireland chose 𝐍𝐎𝐓 to take in 500 Jewish refugee children from France but had no problem taking in Breton Nazi collaborators looking for a safe haven after the war.

Yann Goulet was granted Irish citizenship and continued to wear his fascist Bagadou Stourm SS uniform black shirt, white tie and beret. He never expressed any regret for his collaboration with the Nazis. He went on to have a career in art and sculpture in Ireland, doing various memorials to the Old IRA in Dublin, Tralee, Crossmaglen (I think that one was to the Provos) etc. He did the Christy Ring GAA Memorial in Co. Cork, and private portrait commissions included President Eamon de Valera as well as Charlie Haughey.

And then there's Yann Fouéré, the father of Olwenn Fouéré who has seemingly taken up the modern version of her father's struggle against Jews. Obviously people should not be held responsible for the political views of their parents, but when a pro-Nazi collaborator's daughter becomes an anti-Israel activist, it's hard not to reach the logical conclusion.

It's important not to rewrite Irish history. It's a lot more complex than "the plucky underdogs who never gave up" that some people want it to be. For instance, the men brought out of the GPO were spat on by the locals. The Irish joined the British army in droves at various times in history. The rebellions were often a few hotheads or else in response to specific events that caused anger. It took a particular set of circumstances that led to independence, and if the British had been cleverer, it might not have happened at all.

Bad idea. Chaim Herzog was an Irish patriot. And I deplore Israel’s actions in Gaza as much as anyone.

Out of curiosity what makes him an Irish patriot? I don't know much about him but I know he left in the 30s

Yes, I'm sure the country where people spit on israeli holidaymakers and fervently campaigns to have them excluded from sporting events and singing competitions, and now cant even stand that fact that an irish israeli from years before this current conflict has a park named after him would welome these refugees with open arms 🙄

At a guess, I would say that in Ireland, awareness of the increasing risk of Islamist attacks has probably had a lot more effect in raising any "islamophobia" than anything happening in Gaza:

Incidents like the Japanese student stabbed in Dundalk, the Irish university lecturer John Dowling killed in Paris by a Pakistani student who claimed he had "insulted the Prophet", the two gay men, Aidan Moffitt and Michael Snee who were murdered by Yousef Palani in Sligo, the three children and a care worker stabbed in Dublin, the priest who was stabbed by a 17-year-old Muslim in Galway and the man this summer, Abdullah Khan, who stabbed a member of the Gardaí in Dublin, shouting "Allahu Akbar".

Just a thought. Because if it's due to events abroad, then it's odd that nobody seems very interested in all the Sudanese children being killed by Muslims, or the Nigerian school children being kidnapped, ditto.

It was his father who was active in Irish republican circles. A fluent Irish speaker too. I don't know about the son. As you say he left while still a young man.

(Somebody already suggested upthread naming it after his father, who never lived in Israel, so that it would still be Herzog Park - but as pointed out that wouldn't satisfy the objectors, who basically just want to erase Jews from Irish history.)

For the record I don't think they should change the name, if they did it should be something like Jerusalem Park.

It'll probably be bombed... no wait, tis the Israelis do that....

Again I'm talking about the Irish government would be willing to accept them in, as apparently they are anti semites.

Even Christian refugees are hated in this Country but luckily the minority far right aren't in charge.

Exactly. This honoured a Dublin person and the name was proposed after his term as Israeli president. No new information has emerged about him. The present campaign seems to be about the present Israeli government and perhaps his son. It is wholly wrong to backdate naming on the basis of present governments. Should the many places named after JFK be renamed because the present US government is delinquent and contains one of his relatives?.

I doubt if this represents the views of the people of Rathgar in general or of the people of Dublin. It is driven by a crowd of unprincipled loudmouths to try and give the impression of a wish for change.

The City Council should not set a precedent for this type of change, especially in a city that still has plenty of British colonial relics.

Not in Europe it's not.